Cyanne Wrote:It's a generally accepted rule to work around flaws in Nexon's free-for-all system to create a better experience for everyone. You wouldn't like it if someone intruded on your pianus solo and proceeded to loot the drops, would you?
Actual flaws are different from what people like you perceive as flaws. Pap managing to somehow dispel you just as a bomb explodes and you get nailed without HB and/or MG? That's a flaw. You making the choice to take on a boss that is intended for parties by yourself and risking being KSed? That's not a flaw, that is you making a conscious decision and needing to live and deal with the consequences, what ever they may be. See, some of us are rational and don't need made-up rules to rely on and to enjoy ourselves.
Quote:Where did I ever say that whoever kills crow claims ownership to the map after leaving it?
Here, let's look at what I said with a bit more reading comprehension, shall we?
Dervish Wrote:This is absolutely ridiculous. It may be well-mannered to leave someone alone who's slowly soloing a boss, but it is by no means outside of their rights to KS them. Bosses are a free-for-all, and they always will be. Don't try and make up rules for things that there are none; you're reminding me of the idiots in early Mardia that would kill a crow for a hime channel, and come back nine hours after claiming the channel was their's because they killed the crow.
IT DUN WERK DAT WAY
Here's another analogy for you: you're like the kids that'd play Street Fighter 2 and do nothing but poke and turtle, then cry and call "cheap!" when the person they're playing against starts throw-spamming them.
This is common sense, you don't need some ridiculous "guide" to determine what is frowned upon. If you force yourself upon someone else's map while they're training, you're obviously doing something wrong. Whereas, on the flip side, as I apparently need to keep reiterating, bosses are free-for-all, always have, always will be and it's ridiculous to whine about it.
godofturtles Wrote:If someone enters a map like hoodoos and starts killing, then that is unrealistic and 100% ksing since that map is NOT shareable without a party. However if someone enters a map like FoG that u had been cycling completely and they decide to claim a level you aren't killing on, then they are NOT ksing and have no technical reason to cc, only a moral reason. They should respect that you were utilizing the entire map despite its size, but don't have to cc if they don't want to. But if they start killing on every level and disregard the person who was there first, then that is a map invasion and they end up in the wrong.
Except the fact that nearly every map in the game that is trainable is best either partied, or soloed. Not shared! When you see somebody training somewhere, sure, ask them if they wouldn't mind sharing or partying with you, but if they say no, you get out. There is no question about this, and it is both common courtesy and common sense.
godofturtles Wrote:And bosswise...thats an issue thats never gonna be resolved. The people who feel like ksing every boss they see are gonna support it, and the people who actually wait for the monster to spawn or cc in a mm map if someone is camped there will not support bosses being a FFA. You don't have to respect ppl who camp in the map for a boss, but you are morally WRONG to ks a boss if someone has already started attacking it when you arrive. Ksing is ksing plain and simple, nexon didn't establish "FFA boss", the community unfairly did. Whether you ks in a training map or a boss map, its against the TOS anyway to ks anything and I don't see how you can get around this fact unless you can quote me somewhere in the TOS where bosses are marked as FFA.
Once again, common sense. If Nexon didn't intend for them to be a free-for-all, every boss and mini-boss would be behind closed doors such as Pap or Zak. Are they? Clearly not. Very few are, even. If you want to cry about it being "unfair", then go play a game like Diablo 2 where you can control every aspect of your game to your liking, and the mean ol' community can't hurt you.