TO Mods: Please delete this thread.

I know at 1st, 2nd, and 3rd job you get 1 extra point for starting out. However 3 for 4th job, I don't recall getting 3. I recall getting 1 for skills, and possibly 5 for stats... I think.

You get 1 SP for advancing in the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd jobs and 3 in the 4th job.

And BTW... what's wrong using Ice to train with since just about everything can be frozen now? It's called effective strategy. Just because you don't have a White Knight or failed to build a good one, doesn't mean you know exactly how a White Knight is supposed to train. And I'll even go as far to state something I've stated elsewhere... White Knight are NOT Crusaders.

And this is where I lost attention. I offered a suggestion. No where in my prior post did I state that Ice charge was a bad choice. In fact:

The third job elements are all choice, which is fair enough. Fire typically has more training areas while ice offers the most potion saving, so you are in no way wrong to pick ice.

I'd suggest I nice massage to ease the tension so you can clearly define the line of suggestion and argument. I may play a Hero, but I do keep up with the other classes and knowing how they work.