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JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?)
Eosian Wrote:The law on that is quite clear - You have the right to disassemble whats on your own machine.
You do not have the right to connect to locations you've been explicitly denied access to.
The first is reverse engineering, the second is illegal intrusion. They are not comparable, this is not debatable.

If you have access to JMS and want to post extractions, that's one thing. Teaching people who do not have access to JMS, KMS, TMS, CMS or even GMS how to bypass those restrictions is not an acceptable subject matter.
For that matter neither is teaching people how to do their own extractions.

Sorry to go off topic here with this, but now I'm curious to how much the law can be bent. People who connect through a proxy and other means may not be directly establishing a connection - they are, for what it is, downloading data onto their own machine for personal use. If THIS technical operation is what you would deem to be illegal intrusion by law, then the use of proxy servers for such purposes at all are in fact illegal and can be taken to court? But we all know how many people use such means to bypass censorship and other denied content enforced by some agency with certain power/right.

Yet, on the moral grounds of conduct, I'm sure you would argue that some are justified while others aren't. So with that said, what differs then in ethics and practicality in this case when it comes to extractions and getting on jMST to preview content ahead of time for that same purpose?

Fiel Wrote:Extractions are fair use. Consider an extraction to be nothing more than a database that only shows differences between patches. An extraction is no different than updating a database for Maplestory, and there are several Maplestory databases that exist.

And I'm assuming that the database would exist for the player base as an information outlet, correct?

If so, then what it boils down to in this case is then the means of obtaining/building that database. If reverse engineering/disassembling code is legal, then it goes back to my question to Eosian. Is using proxy indeed illegal then? No direction connection/access is made - data is merely transferred from one server to the next, and then downloaded. On the larger level, extractions is a means of obtaining data that is not meant to be available to the players...likewise for using a proxy. So really, IF the law really forbids the use of proxies for such purposes, then the only difference here is based on the law itself, and not based on any moral/ethics grounds?
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JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Link - 2010-10-29, 09:12 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Link - 2010-10-29, 09:16 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Fiel - 2010-10-29, 09:54 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Link - 2010-10-29, 10:39 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Link - 2010-10-29, 11:58 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Skylit - 2010-10-30, 12:21 AM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Link - 2010-10-30, 12:43 AM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Link - 2010-10-30, 02:18 AM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Link - 2010-10-30, 03:19 AM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by larmie - 2010-10-30, 03:58 AM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by larmie - 2010-10-30, 05:46 AM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Daimean - 2010-10-30, 12:32 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by aslemn - 2010-10-30, 02:28 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by -Ghost- - 2010-10-30, 02:34 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Justin - 2010-10-30, 05:04 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by aslemn - 2010-10-30, 05:13 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by QSCX - 2010-10-31, 03:13 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Locked - 2010-10-31, 06:22 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by larmie - 2010-11-01, 08:41 AM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Link - 2010-11-01, 08:58 AM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Stereo - 2010-11-01, 11:09 AM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by larmie - 2010-11-02, 01:00 AM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Link - 2010-11-02, 01:06 AM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by larmie - 2010-11-02, 05:23 AM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Link - 2010-11-02, 10:20 AM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Link - 2010-11-02, 11:01 AM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by larmie - 2010-11-02, 11:59 AM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Skylit - 2010-11-02, 12:45 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by knlbr - 2010-11-02, 12:53 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Skylit - 2010-11-02, 12:55 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by aslemn - 2010-11-02, 01:13 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by aslemn - 2010-11-02, 01:15 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by aslemn - 2010-11-02, 01:27 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by aslemn - 2010-11-02, 01:36 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by aslemn - 2010-11-02, 02:00 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by aslemn - 2010-11-02, 02:15 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by aslemn - 2010-11-02, 02:23 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by aslemn - 2010-11-02, 02:33 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by aslemn - 2010-11-02, 02:47 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by larmie - 2010-11-02, 02:49 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by aslemn - 2010-11-02, 02:51 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Erich - 2010-11-02, 03:10 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Skylit - 2010-11-02, 03:11 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by aslemn - 2010-11-02, 03:15 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by aslemn - 2010-11-02, 03:24 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by aslemn - 2010-11-02, 03:27 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by larmie - 2010-11-02, 03:34 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by aslemn - 2010-11-02, 03:36 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by aslemn - 2010-11-02, 03:43 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Beg - 2010-11-02, 03:52 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Stereo - 2010-11-02, 03:52 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by larmie - 2010-11-02, 03:53 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by aslemn - 2010-11-02, 04:03 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by aslemn - 2010-11-02, 04:39 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by aslemn - 2010-11-02, 04:46 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Derosis - 2010-11-02, 05:31 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by larmie - 2010-11-02, 05:31 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by aslemn - 2010-11-02, 06:58 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by aslemn - 2010-11-02, 07:25 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by aslemn - 2010-11-02, 08:36 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by aslemn - 2010-11-02, 10:04 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Locked - 2010-11-02, 10:04 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by aslemn - 2010-11-02, 10:21 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Derosis - 2010-11-02, 10:24 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by aslemn - 2010-11-02, 10:35 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Derosis - 2010-11-02, 11:05 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Link - 2010-11-02, 11:07 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Derosis - 2010-11-02, 11:14 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by aslemn - 2010-11-02, 11:18 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Derosis - 2010-11-02, 11:20 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Skylit - 2010-11-02, 11:21 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by aslemn - 2010-11-02, 11:21 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Derosis - 2010-11-02, 11:23 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by aslemn - 2010-11-02, 11:27 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Derosis - 2010-11-02, 11:28 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Kenta - 2010-11-02, 11:30 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by larmie - 2010-11-02, 11:33 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Derosis - 2010-11-02, 11:36 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by aslemn - 2010-11-02, 11:40 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by larmie - 2010-11-02, 11:42 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Kenta - 2010-11-02, 11:43 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Derosis - 2010-11-02, 11:53 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Kenta - 2010-11-02, 11:57 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Eos - 2010-11-03, 12:06 AM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by larmie - 2010-11-03, 12:38 AM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Link - 2010-11-03, 01:08 AM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Eos - 2010-11-03, 01:09 AM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Fiel - 2010-11-03, 01:12 AM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by MysticHLE - 2010-11-03, 01:18 AM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by larmie - 2010-11-03, 01:19 AM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Eos - 2010-11-03, 01:23 AM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by larmie - 2010-11-03, 01:44 AM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Fiel - 2010-11-03, 02:04 AM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Eos - 2010-11-03, 02:08 AM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by larmie - 2010-11-03, 02:11 AM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Fiel - 2010-11-03, 02:26 AM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Link - 2010-11-03, 03:00 AM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Skylit - 2010-11-03, 03:28 AM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by larmie - 2010-11-03, 05:18 AM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Link - 2010-11-03, 05:41 AM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Raph589 - 2010-11-03, 08:28 AM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Tukkun - 2010-11-03, 10:09 AM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Link - 2010-11-03, 10:18 AM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Link - 2010-11-03, 10:25 AM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Link - 2010-11-03, 11:55 AM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by aslemn - 2010-11-03, 01:31 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by aslemn - 2010-11-03, 01:53 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by larmie - 2010-11-03, 01:57 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by larmie - 2010-11-03, 02:19 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by aslemn - 2010-11-03, 03:01 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by larmie - 2010-11-03, 03:20 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by aslemn - 2010-11-03, 03:48 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by larmie - 2010-11-03, 03:58 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Skylit - 2010-11-03, 07:42 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by iRyahn - 2010-11-03, 08:25 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by iRyahn - 2010-11-03, 08:38 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Erich - 2010-11-03, 08:57 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by iRyahn - 2010-11-03, 09:03 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Schrono - 2010-11-03, 10:10 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by larmie - 2010-11-04, 04:43 AM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by donovan - 2010-11-04, 10:03 AM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by larmie - 2010-11-04, 01:39 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by aslemn - 2010-11-04, 03:28 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by aslemn - 2010-11-04, 03:41 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by aslemn - 2010-11-04, 03:48 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by aslemn - 2010-11-04, 03:55 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Kevo - 2010-11-05, 12:52 AM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Duelman - 2010-11-05, 11:27 AM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Link - 2010-11-05, 12:05 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by aslemn - 2010-11-05, 04:25 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Erich - 2010-11-05, 04:52 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Feniru - 2010-11-06, 05:52 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Dusk - 2010-11-06, 07:40 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Signal - 2010-11-06, 09:03 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Dusk - 2010-11-06, 10:07 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by aslemn - 2010-11-06, 10:18 PM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Kenta - 2010-11-07, 02:51 AM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Link - 2010-11-07, 04:18 AM
JMS Big Bang Tespia Open For All (?) - by Kenta - 2010-11-07, 01:09 PM

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