2010-09-08, 05:41 PM
Polka Wrote:your problem is you're not clear about what you say and then you post 50 more times because you continue to be unclear and you don't understand why no one understands what you're saying and you think they're arguing with you. for example you dropped the term "past life" which makes no sense even in the context of rebirthing.
Rebirth -> born again. Using the term "past life" makes complete sense. >_> You would say past life to tie the concept in logically with the game world, rather than how the game appears to it's players. If you're born again, you would refer to the events from before the rebirth as your past life.
As for me being unclear, that's more your problem than mine. If you think i'm unclear tell me rather than trying to disprove what i said (which gives me the appearance of you trying to argue with me, so i get defensive) so i don't lash out for no reason.
Polka Wrote:anyway, i think i understand what you're saying now but to some extent it's either a really bad system or i hope we've mistaken it because allowing cygnus characters to become ultimate adventurers and then still screw them over by keeping them at 160 is awful. just to be clear the thought process here is...
I don't really think it's screwing them over. It's allowing them to continue and become stronger, without becoming strong enough to invalidate the work that the real classes have done. I mean, if UAs end up getting a 4th job book (if that doesn't happen i'd say that's what's going to screw them over more than anything) then they could still fight against major bosses. They would be useful, but at the same time not as strong as the originals. The 120 cap for cygnus was more than reasonable so that they wouldn't overpower everyone, but now maple is a much stronger game. Players no longer are stuck in the low 4th job levels, and can easily reach much higher. (thus the 240 lv cap) This is only compensating for that added potential by allowing cygnus to become useful, while yet again buffing the adventurer class that raised a UA as a reward. If these skills are UA only, then it makes making a UA useless. There isn't any reward for making one, and since the UA still isn't as strong as the original, it's again useless. That's why it makes sense that these skills are account shared, just like blessing.
Polka Wrote:new players to maple will be encouraged to start by playing a cygnus. they're easier to play, have a... somewhat complete story, and have lots of direction. then once they hit 120 and are ready to move on to bigger things, they'll have the choice of rebirthing their cygnus knight into an adventurer (or ultimate adventurer) and will be allowed to keep some of their cygnus skills to make the transition a little less daunting. unfortunately, if what's being assumed is right -- that their level cap is only 160, they'll still be as useless as ever. they should be given the ability to rebirth with those skills and hit 200 as a real adventurer. all of this other stuff would be more of a bonus for taking the time to hit 120 + whatever level they get on an adventurer.
Allowing them to rebirth and hit 200 would again make regular characters useless. Everyone would ditch their adventurers and make cygnuses/UAs because they don't have as much potential.