What a NL can expect after BB patch.

SE and Thorns boost different parts of critical damage post-BB, so I don't see why they wouldn't stack. Can't confirm though. Either way, neither skill is really worth talking about or including in your damage. It's not like pre-BB where you do 10k without SE and 15k with. Every class gets a 10~15%ish damage boost from max SE.

What I find more interesting is that damage becomes more stable with thorns, and the higher the critical chance, the better. My point of view would be to aim for 100% critical rate, or attempt it.

ALSO, anyone mind telling me what's decent sharp eye's effects after Big Bang?