What a NL can expect after BB patch.

How much DPS would the Nightlord have pre-bigbang with SE? or is that already included?

And Thorns works for all classes/stacks with SE now?

Very impressive bonus, a nearly 100% increase in DPS without SE/Thorns is nothing to look down on.

I didn't include SE in pre-BB calculations (because I'm unsure my post-BB one is correct), which is why I highlighted the non-SE'd ones. I'll do it later for kicks and giggles, I guess. Currently working out the general reasonable expectations for the damage increase, since the dmg formula gets changed around a bit, this can only go by estimations.

I believe only the chance stacks, not the damage.

I wasn't expecting them to stack either way.
With Thorns30: 80% Crit chance at 150~150% Crit damage
With SE30: 80% Crit chance at 120~180% Crit damage

This is with Critical Ring btw.