2010-07-21, 10:53 PM
Erich Wrote:Have you ever seen how this world works? it isn't ethical but it happens.
That's not reasonable logic. As Americans we are proud to be among the few who fight the norm and combat the wrong, even though it is plentiful and easy to succumb to.
Quote: I don't believe in it, but it happens. Do I think every muslim is a terrorist? No. It isn't a punishment by not building a mosque on ground zero, build it somewhere else in NYC. It's gigantic. We lost something and people, and it was because of people who interpreted their religion the wrong way. It's denying us rights by giving them something they can have everywhere else but here.
What rights?
Quote:I do agree there is a problem with people against mosques. But I don't think it's just the time for that to happen. Should they have the right? yes. Are they allowed? No. Sound familiar? @ civil rights movement. It took decades. It very well might take decades thanks to southern hicks yet again. Plus, we're still at war with Al Quida, and I don't trust the government enough to really think they'll let this happen while a few muslims want to kill our country. Should the rest be punished? No. Will it happen? Probably.
Al Quida is not building this mosque, lol. And yes, it's sad that it took so long to free slaves and give them the rights and opportunities all humans deserve, but this doesn't mean we should mark our calenders and refuse something perfectly legal and just to people who call NYC their home, because people of their own faith went coocoo.
TøbiasBlack Wrote:thats how it works.
Again, another incorrect ideology.
Quote: because of 9/11 airline as well as overall security measures have increased in their strictness; after columbine theres been a zero-tolerance initiative with schools and school-related violence; after a few shipments of food are contaminated and making people sick the entire line of that food is recalled from the place where it came, same as with toys and baby carriers if they prove to be harmful.
You are mixing up different things and labeling them the same. School, Airports, imported good (the list goes on), are all items where if they were tainted with or not secured properly, we would be in danger. A building in NYC, NY or Chico, California can equally harbor good or bad people if people choose to act wrongly, and if our nation was unable to discover their wrong intentions. I would probably find it stupid and down right unintelligent if terrorists planned to use this already controversial location with much attention to do anything wrong, or to meet up and plan schemes. Normal mosques in the US are surveillance and scrutinized already, I'm sure a mosque in NYC, in ground zero would be more than safely surveillance.
Quote:seperation of church and state is also irrelevant. its a matter of respect. they want to undermine the affect that the terrorist attacks had on the american psyche by building a mosque near the site? do you see the struggles that go on about the dome of the roq (spelled right?) and where it is located? where a building is set has a lot of effect on the world around it, and you can just look at a Wal-Mart for that how it kills any nearby small businesses.
How is separation of church and state irrelevant? When politicians debate why this is or is not right for America, the state is meddling with religious affairs. Matter of respect? If you and I were best buddies, and my cousin happened to sucker punch your brother, am I no longer invited to your dinner party? The people who seek to build the mosque have no connection with terrorist plotters, or these ties would have been unearthed by now. Again, the place will be full of cameras and surveillance in case any fishy business does occur. There is no undermining of any events, Muslim leaders all over the US have condemned the attacks as violations to their beliefs , they stand with their country against the extremists.
The single most holy place for a group of people and another building of worship is incomparable. You cannot visit Vegas and claim you've seen the world's monuments (they have miniatures), it doesn't make sense. Wal-mart is a business. You are comparing so many things with so many other things, it doesn't deliver sufficient argument.

