2010-07-07, 08:45 PM
Definitely like the Magician updates. Exactly what we needed.
Now to enter this mess
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[spoiler=I'll just address these quotes collectively]
First off, big LOL at the two most vocal proponents for removing Ele Wands being a Marksman and a Corsair. It's funny when the KMST god classes want us ArchMages potentially coming anywhere close to them to be shot down.
@FluffieFoxxie: To counter your "an item only affecting a few classes meaning it's not unbalanced" sarcasm: Apples as they currently work in GMS. The boost NLs get from them > all > the boost us AMs get to our DPS from Eles. GUD ARGUMENT.
@Dusk: Just lol. Again, you're playing a class that was already godly and is now broken, and yet you want us to suffer? Give me a break. First off, we don't get an overall 1.25 damage multiplier to EVERYTHING - it ONLY APPLIES TO THE ELEMENT OF THE WEAPON. So does that mean for BOSSING DPS we're fine? Duh. But it's not like Big Bang has a 1.25x multiplier like you make it out to be. Plus, mind you, our secondary element only gets a 1.1x multiplier. Lolkthanks for 10% more damage.
Also, complete and utter lol @ "AMs being close to Heros at bossing DPS." OO BOY WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO MID-TIER BOSSING DPS? DAMN BETTER NERF THEIR ELES BEFORE THEY THINK THEY CAN ACTUALLY BOSS WITH US!
Please. Take it from a Lv. 200, there's nothing to do in this game but boss at my level. So we can train hella fast? Big whoop. It'll be nice to see 16x ArchMages with no connections actually invited to runs now.
And a general comment to everyone pissed about eles:
I guess you all missed that on page 3 of this thread. Like many before me, quit whining about comparing MATK bonuses from Eles to other class equips. They're Lv. 130 and 163 weapons. Just wait till KMS releases the EPIC, HIGHER LEVELED, HIGHER ATT WEAPONS PAUL IS HINTHINTING AT HERE.
Christ. It's funny Dusk finished the last post I quoted him in with "So far I haven't seen any solid numbers that show that mages are have lower dps than other classes, only speculation that they will do so just because they are currently the weakest" because all of you SCREAMING TO NERF ELES don't even have said info to support your arguments. yourargumentisinvalid.jpg.
Now to enter this mess
:[spoiler=I'll just address these quotes collectively]
Dusk Wrote:Not every version has Ele Wands/Staves either. Putting aside the 25% damage boost to a specific element, the Ele Staves have 178 attack clean. Holy hell what? That's almost 50 attack higher than a Reverse Staff, and far beyond what a level 100 Staff is even capable of reaching. A well scrolled Timeless Staff can hardly beat that. If they balance mages in KMS to be competitive with other classes using Staves that have 11x~13x attack clean, then mages in GMS will seem like they're permanently on Apples.
Oh, and they also get the 25% damage boost. Yeah.
FluffyFoxxie Wrote:Just becuase it only affects a few players means it's not unbalanced? lolok.
Dusk Wrote:> 1080% CL hits 3 targets
> easily surpass 300 magic attack
> elquines does some extra damage
I see I/Ls being about as powerful as Heroes. With a weapon that boosts their overall damage by 25% and gives them an additional 40 magic attack, hohoho certainly not the weakest bossing class.
Dusk Wrote:How exactly is magic attack different than weapon attack? Thanks. My point was that they seem about on par with Heroes, not that they are better than them. So far I haven't seen any solid numbers that show that mages are have lower dps than other classes, only speculation that they will do so just because they are currently the weakest.[/spoiler]
First off, big LOL at the two most vocal proponents for removing Ele Wands being a Marksman and a Corsair. It's funny when the KMST god classes want us ArchMages potentially coming anywhere close to them to be shot down.
@FluffieFoxxie: To counter your "an item only affecting a few classes meaning it's not unbalanced" sarcasm: Apples as they currently work in GMS. The boost NLs get from them > all > the boost us AMs get to our DPS from Eles. GUD ARGUMENT.
@Dusk: Just lol. Again, you're playing a class that was already godly and is now broken, and yet you want us to suffer? Give me a break. First off, we don't get an overall 1.25 damage multiplier to EVERYTHING - it ONLY APPLIES TO THE ELEMENT OF THE WEAPON. So does that mean for BOSSING DPS we're fine? Duh. But it's not like Big Bang has a 1.25x multiplier like you make it out to be. Plus, mind you, our secondary element only gets a 1.1x multiplier. Lolkthanks for 10% more damage.
Also, complete and utter lol @ "AMs being close to Heros at bossing DPS." OO BOY WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO MID-TIER BOSSING DPS? DAMN BETTER NERF THEIR ELES BEFORE THEY THINK THEY CAN ACTUALLY BOSS WITH US!
Please. Take it from a Lv. 200, there's nothing to do in this game but boss at my level. So we can train hella fast? Big whoop. It'll be nice to see 16x ArchMages with no connections actually invited to runs now.
And a general comment to everyone pissed about eles:
Fiel Wrote:[SIZE="9"]hahaohwow
You guys are about to see pretty epic equips.[/SIZE]
I guess you all missed that on page 3 of this thread. Like many before me, quit whining about comparing MATK bonuses from Eles to other class equips. They're Lv. 130 and 163 weapons. Just wait till KMS releases the EPIC, HIGHER LEVELED, HIGHER ATT WEAPONS PAUL IS HINTHINTING AT HERE.
Christ. It's funny Dusk finished the last post I quoted him in with "So far I haven't seen any solid numbers that show that mages are have lower dps than other classes, only speculation that they will do so just because they are currently the weakest" because all of you SCREAMING TO NERF ELES don't even have said info to support your arguments. yourargumentisinvalid.jpg.
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