[1.2.323] (2) Moar Skill Balancing

An average Drk at Skele also does Rush - Crusher - pot - Crusher - Crusher - pot + Rush... in other words, no more than 2 attacks between each pot, and while we have to pot seriously quickly, like, HOLY-MOTHERpineappleER-I'M-GONNA-DIE quickly, we still have to make almost-sure that we can maintain our 2hitKO ability. I don't understand what's so hard about potting every (two) hit(s).

Arrow rain has a bad tendancy to cause pot lag.You can jump crushers, arrow rain requires you to be firmly on the ground and stops you moving for a while even after its finished casting. Rush also has inviciblity frames, and if it came down to it, you could overpot and get out of the way of the monsters.

I am a lvl 182 NL thank you very much. i've been 2 hited by everything I've trained on for the last 100 lvles or so. The only problem using avenger like that would be the min. range and the fact that it only goes in one direction. It is far superior to use avenger and taunt on mobs with 5 and 6 monsters compared to using TT.

Nowhere did I say getting 2 hitted by everything worth training on is a problem, but using arrow rain is a sure way to kill yourself, or at the very least, waste a pineappleton of time without increasing youre xp rate at all. If arrow rain only fired in one direction, that would be seriously great. No other attack that a bowmaster has hits behind them. Hitting behind an archer does nothing but box you in between multiple monsters, then theres the obvious fact that , thieves have many times the avoid of an archer as well as fake, movement skills (flash jump and haste) that archers don't have access to anything equivilant (...exceptlolthrust), and you aren't attacking the monsters behind with avenger, that again is nothing but a disadvantage at any high level (i.e. 4th job)training spot.

DUDE, BM has so many stunning skills. I'm a BM just in case u hadnt notice....... and I train in skele revive memory. You nid guidance?
Here:
1) open hawk 99% stun
2) Arrow bomb, (since no minimum range) = u can stun almost all mobs that's on a straight line
3) Arrow rain on those mobs that have been stunned. Dmg from Arrow bomb means you probably only nid to Arrow rain once or twice b4 the mob is dead.

Hawk hits ONE target. I.e. lends itself to the idea that using hurricane is better.

Bomb arrow?... Just lol. Hey, lets hit a mob of 10 monsters with arrow rain then rely on arrow bombs only hitting 6 targets with a pretty bad stun rate! Congrats, you've succesfully killed your damage rate, and not you're using a 2nd job attack to try and pray you don't die.

. Dmg from Arrow bomb means you probably only nid to Arrow rain once or twice b4 the mob is dead.

Oh for gods sake, that isn't even remotely true right now, and this is far before they boost the higher level monsters hp up!

You could have at least mentioned hitting them with arrow rain and dropping a puppet out of the monsters range, because thats the only legit tactic for arrow raining, but then that takes a long time to set up.