2010-06-19, 10:26 PM
Stereo Wrote:Sorry my previous post was so brief, I was in kinda a rush.
Max ACB/Lightning/Holy at Beetles (Lit-resist, ~450 wdef)
37,300 with damage range to 7,027
Indicates a minimum skill % boost of 154.5%
Holy's 150% and Lightning's 125%
But that doesn't really make sense.
Max ACB/Lightning/Holy at Rash (neutral, ~450 wdef)
15,500-39,500 with same damage range 2793-7027
Indicates a minimum skill % boost of 163.5%, maximum of165.7%
All I can say to that is, uh... that's not 125% lightning boost. More like 110%.
16,800-41,950 at Red Kents (Ice-weak, ~800 wdef)
175.6% - 184.5% est
1.5 * 1.1 * 1.1 fits this.
I think Lightning is a 110% bonus and elemental advantage is untouched.
21,600-56,800 at Black Kents (holy-weak, ~800 wdef)
235.9% -237%
This doesn't fit 1.5*1.5*1.1 :x Um.
15,200-39,500 at Rextons (lightning-weak, ~800 wdef)
using ACB+Holy+Lit
-43,400 with ACB+Lit alone...
165.6%-169.8%
/ 182% with just Lightning (old is 187.5% so presumably that continues)
6,700-18,300 at Brextons (fire-resist, ~800 wdef)
using ACB+Fire+Lit
80.1-82.9% -> lol seriously.
Something very strange going on here.
Holy neutral + Lit Resist: 154.5%
Holy neutral + Lit Neutral: 163.5-165.7%
Holy neutral + Lit weak: 165.6-169.8%
Lit weak: 187.5%
Holy weak + Lit Neutral: 236.5%
Appears lightning weakness is not factored into dual charging at all. Which puts neutral-neutral damage at just about 165.6%.
That is, Neutral Blast = 960% and Heroes had their panties in a twist over nothing, Brandish is still stronger on 1 target.
Just to reiterate Holy + Lightning is weaker than Lightning alone on Lightning-weak mobs. Why, Nexon, why?
Did you check out my post on Basil? I did some testing too on Wednesday and came up with these conclusions:
(Note: These are probably inaccurate as I came up with them after playing around for just 2 hours, I haven't even tested all scenarios, but should be in the right ballpark)
- Charges are stacked additively, that means, Holy + Lightning = 175%, instead of the 187.5% that it would have had
- When the primary charge is in advantage, the elemental advantage is 135%
- When the secondary charge is in advantage (that is, Lightning), the elemental advantage is neglected, even if the primary charge is not in advantage; to gain the Lightning advantage, you must disable the other charge
- When the primary charge is in resistance, the elemental advantage is 50% (too lazy to convert to a resistance % instead ._.)
- When the secondary charge is in resistance, the elemental advantage is 88.5%
But at the same time, I did notice that Neutral damage did not fit into any of the categories.
I was at multiple places such as Dual Ghost Pirates and Vikings to test my Neutral damage (and the Lightning weak damage, which was none), and the multiplier that I got was roughly 1.62, without accounting for weapon defense. With weapon defense accounted for, I get something around 1.65.
Another thing to point out is that I noticed that my damage got even more unstable after the balance patch, using Lightning + Fire for a brief 5 ~ 10mins at DPs, I saw around 34K on the low end and 94K on the high end, when my range is 3073 ~ 7607. I saw ~98K at ToT though, so I think it is safe to assume that 98K is my actual upper end on fire weak monsters.
Edit:
Should mention that I tested using Blast, not ACB.
Edit 2:
My theory regarding neutral is that Nexon went stupid and put a 95% limiter on the thing. >_<
It would all fit if that was the case.
175% * 95% = 166.25%