InfiniteFusion Wrote:I dont see how Sudden Raid is so weak. When I saw the Sudden Raid video, it showed the Dual Blade doing around 20k per monster on average. Sudden Raid also attacks about two times faster than a mages ultimate, and that Dual Blader was 3HKOing those Skeles ( 5-6HKOing when his final cut deactivates, since it has a cooldown now). So, either that Dual Blade was extremely high leveled (I couldn't see his level)/ very well equiped, or your telling me that a Dual Blade that trains with his other skills give more exp than a mage spamming his Ultimate.
As for Stack Effect, how does it keep you alive? It acts like puppet and doesn't follow you around. So, unless you keep recasting it, or you train in one spot, Stack Effect doesn't seem very useful.
Acting like puppet is exactly what it does, try killing royal guard without it. Leaving sudden raid low is also for that reason, as by 145-150 you'll want to start training off royal guards. Depending on your equipment you should be getting royal guard kills in 20-30 mins soon by like 160-170, which comes out to over 30-45mil exp per hour on 1x, which is impossible to beat or even come close to through normal training. Like the magician ultimates, sudden raid isn't very good anyways if you plan to train at oblivion 4. Also, sudden raid isn't twice as fast, it's only like 2/3 the speed.
Locked Wrote:I meant that the skill point thing was patched constantly.
I still don't see how that makes Tornado Spin useful
There isn't that much to lose from getting tornado spin at the end of 3rd+, all you'd miss out on is endure and like 5 nimble body avoid, so might as well max it. I think everyone would agree that saving SP in 3rd job is better than maxing tornado spin in 3rd job.