2010-04-14, 07:16 AM
Fiel Wrote:Perhaps, Eosian. However, hasn't it also been scientifically observed that men who had an endearing relationship with their mothers also prefer a woman who looks like their mother? This is nature/nurture and has been argued for millennia. I highly doubt you can stay on the side of the nature argument here because both sides make sense.
Nature vs Nurture has nothing to do with my point - Regardless of either, who I am is who I am and it is not something I have the capability to turn on or off, merely repress at the cost of being untrue to who I currently am.
You have as little choice in how you are nurtured as in your nature, so again, Free Will would have no applicability there any more than having had the free will to choose who gave birth to you.
Fiel Wrote:I find it odd that you say that Sodom and Gomorrah has no relevance to you, then you go on to say that God loves everyone. S&G were destroyed due to their wickedness and God smote them from the heavens. How can God love all people if God does not love them?
I agree that God is a very loving God in the same way I believe my mother is a loving mother. But that does not mean that God loves everyone.
According to their ideology God promised to spare S & G were there any people of virtue present and would only destroy them should they be proven to be completely corrupt, much as a father would kill one of it's children who'd gone rabid and threatened the other's. Doesn't mean the rabid child was unloved, just that it was a threat to the others and it's sacrifice was necessary.
One must consider that sacrifice and martyrdom for the greater good in general were strong beliefs for the culture that brought about the Abrahamic religions.
It's also important to note that the message of S&G is repeatedly corrupted to be about sex in the modern mindset, when the majority of what they did wrong that was so taboo was how they treated other people. That's easily overlooked today where treating strangers, or even friends and family, like crap is common place, but was considered a grievous crime in the eyes of God in that culture.
I don't believe anyone should be trying to apply the rules and logic of a translated and transliterated document of a culture they know virtually nothing about to how other people should live their lives. If they want to attempt to live by that information to the best of their ability, more power to them. Using such garble to impose rules on the rest of the world involuntarily, unacceptable.
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