2010-04-11, 01:14 PM
One of the popular comments I've seen on this thread is "omg new evolutions for old Pogeys!!!1!1!" Then, I read comments like this when someone posts a rather plausible, albeit clearly fake, picture of potential new sprite evolutions/babies:
I'm sorry, but no. You can't want new evolutions/babies of any I-IV Pokemon and not want something like this. Would you like to create the new evolutions my friend? Let me put it this way: Generation IV was FILLED with a crap-ton new offshoot evolution Pokemon, like Electivir, Magmortar, Glaceon, Leafeon, etc. You claim that there are only three Regis according to legend, yet Regigigas is found in the eastern temple in Snowpoint City. And what did that do to the game? I've never seen so many people hate on a generation of Pokemon before. Too many were upset with all they tried to fit in, saying they really pushed the bar with Gen IV adding so many random new evolutions to old Pokemon lines that hadn't seen a change since Gen I or II. While the idea of new evolutions for old Pokemon is neat and brings back nostalgia for veteran players, if the execution is carried out poorly (like seen above, and like Gen IV, IMO, was pretty damn close to), then the new generation fails to live up to its expectations of showcasing the individuality of whatever new region the Pokemon are found. You want all these new Pokemon evolutions for old lines, but don't want to see this many, as shown above? Please. The above picture is an excellent metaphor for what the generation V Pokemon will be, and if you can't handle that, don't be shouting so euphorically for new evolutions for the old.
I like this post as a good example of balance:
However, I think 200+ Pokemon is way too much since no generation aside from the original 151 has added more than 150 Pokemon. And you want to add 200??? Hot damn. I think this generation will add ~100ish again, like the past THREE, giving us a grand total around 600 or a little above. I think having perhaps 15-25 new evolutions and a maximum of 3 new babies would be an adequate take on the old, but I do believe a new generation needs to add NEW Pokemon, evolution lines and type mixing like we've never seen before.
In the end, keep in mind that completely new Pokemon are not a bad thing, even if they appear strange or weird. Considering Pokemon are based off real world organisms, and scientists in the real world have only identified 1.8 million of the estimated 10-100 million species that exist, it makes sense that so many new species, and thus Pokemon, when translated into the video game world, can exist.
y0y0y0y0shi0 Wrote:They're quite obviously fake.
The sprites are way too detailed/use too many colors, there are way too many Pokemon in general (and new Pokemon, for that matter), too many ripoffs (see: the "new" Regis), Zorua/Zoroark aren't legendaries, and there are WAYYYYYYY too many babies/final evolutions.
Nightclaw Wrote:so fake. Not a single new pokemon that isnt a rripoff, baby/3rd, or part of a 3 stge evolution.
also, according to legend, there are only 3 regis, and there are no pure flying pokemon
the confirmed arent legendaries, way too many, and just... no
I'm sorry, but no. You can't want new evolutions/babies of any I-IV Pokemon and not want something like this. Would you like to create the new evolutions my friend? Let me put it this way: Generation IV was FILLED with a crap-ton new offshoot evolution Pokemon, like Electivir, Magmortar, Glaceon, Leafeon, etc. You claim that there are only three Regis according to legend, yet Regigigas is found in the eastern temple in Snowpoint City. And what did that do to the game? I've never seen so many people hate on a generation of Pokemon before. Too many were upset with all they tried to fit in, saying they really pushed the bar with Gen IV adding so many random new evolutions to old Pokemon lines that hadn't seen a change since Gen I or II. While the idea of new evolutions for old Pokemon is neat and brings back nostalgia for veteran players, if the execution is carried out poorly (like seen above, and like Gen IV, IMO, was pretty damn close to), then the new generation fails to live up to its expectations of showcasing the individuality of whatever new region the Pokemon are found. You want all these new Pokemon evolutions for old lines, but don't want to see this many, as shown above? Please. The above picture is an excellent metaphor for what the generation V Pokemon will be, and if you can't handle that, don't be shouting so euphorically for new evolutions for the old.
I like this post as a good example of balance:
Ceddybear Wrote:I'm just going to explore my first post even more.
There should be 200ish pokes. 50 evos from previous gens, and the rest all new with pokes with new typing.
SpoilerMaximum 5 baby pokes.
Should ther be 4th Evos then it should only be for like starter pokes, under special conditions.
Pokegear, Pokewatch, Pokenav, PokeBook?(or something like that, a netbook look alike thing) Or the Pokepad
Legendary trio based on noise ? o.0 (lol im bored)
Thundepeal(Peal of thunder)
Simmerva(simmering lava)
Splashfall(waterfall+ splash)
Tbh i dont know what the legendaries are based no because everything is covered.
However, I think 200+ Pokemon is way too much since no generation aside from the original 151 has added more than 150 Pokemon. And you want to add 200??? Hot damn. I think this generation will add ~100ish again, like the past THREE, giving us a grand total around 600 or a little above. I think having perhaps 15-25 new evolutions and a maximum of 3 new babies would be an adequate take on the old, but I do believe a new generation needs to add NEW Pokemon, evolution lines and type mixing like we've never seen before.
In the end, keep in mind that completely new Pokemon are not a bad thing, even if they appear strange or weird. Considering Pokemon are based off real world organisms, and scientists in the real world have only identified 1.8 million of the estimated 10-100 million species that exist, it makes sense that so many new species, and thus Pokemon, when translated into the video game world, can exist.