How thorns (dual blader) works

No, you're wrong and Dusk's calculator is wrong. Aside from the testing that was just done in the Formula Compilation thread, I've tested this myself. And I've adjusted my own version of Dusk's calculator to match it. All the other things you mentioned *do* multiply at the end, Combo is just an exception.


Sounds kind of messy. I used my version of Dusk's calc so I know they used the same stuff, I just find it odd that our ranges are so different.


You're just speculating -- you don't know that for sure. And being that crit rings are even coming out, it's pretty clear the current designers have no idea how crit affects classes and class balance, so I certainly wouldn't put it past them. I'm expecting Thorns to take up the innate crit slot (if it's not already filled), and SE to stack with it like how it stacks with innate crit.

Well i got that info of combo stuff off dusk so yeah anyways. even if it is your way. the difference is so small that its negligeable.

Well the spreadsheet i used was the NL dmg calculator in sw and corsair spreadsheet from either sw and sp cant remember but they are accurate.

Also thorns will not stack se, some guy from KMST tested it and he put in youtube and said thorns doesnt seem to increase dmg. If SE stacks with thorns? That would make other classes far too powerful and it wont make sense. Anyways rather than worrying it now. Lets just wait and see. In end you will see that thorns does not stack with se. I believe in my own opinion and it won't change unless someone really shows that it does stack.