2010-01-13, 12:56 PM
Dusk Wrote:What. CPQ is not nearly mobby enough for mobbing skills to make much of a difference. In normal play you rarely ever mob anything. Even with max Rombot summons in room 3/4, the spawn can be killed pretty easily. If you 4hko a mob of 4 monsters with Steal, you could be 1hkoing each one with SB. To kill that mob in 4 hits requires that you hit all 4 of them 4 times a piece, which is harder to guarantee that hitting each one once, especially with the amount of mobiliity Bandits have. Double Stab is a great skill, but only as a finisher for SB. The forced stab sucks.
How the hell can your CB kill Roids slower than that? Can you not 1hko them? He's using a slow weapon and he's not even using Booster. I am really baffled by that statement.
I don't know why you'd regret putting points into Endure if you're already 3rd job, anyhow. The passive MP recovery is noticeable, even if it doesn't save you all that much money. At just level 78 with just 18 BoT my CB's mobbing ability has completely overshadowed my single target ability, which is to say that had I maxed Steal with the new updates, I still would have chucked it within 8 levels of reaching 3rd job.
About the 4 hit KO thing: I was talking about normal training there. Also, why do you think Aran and such do so well in CPQ? Also, Steal has a pretty good range (about the same as Aran) and with the size of the monsters in CPQ it shouldn't be hard to hit things.
The forced stab mainly sucks if you jump around a lot when fighting smaller enemies.
About the "killing Roids slower", yes, I cannot 1hko them. With 1 SB I take about 80% of their HP. My equips and stats:
Damage range: 698 ~ 1166 (I don't use attack potions anymore)
Dagger: 86 ATT
Shield: none right now, but 1 stat isn't worth the money right now, getting a Khanjar at 80 anyways.
Stat bonuses from equipment: so low they barely make a difference.
Glove: 7 ATT
Ring: 2 ATT(going to get 3 ATT next month or something)
7 Blessing
Converting from LUK to STR build, 5 points in HP (to take them out of MP later, the extra HP has done a lot for me already).
You may call this weak, I call it decent, simply because it is archieved without most of the stupid and insane items most people use today the day (no PAC, no zhelm etc.). Sorry for not wasting lots of time and mesos to get the best damage possible while I can be happy with what I have and can make with maker equipment wise. I've calculated that at Lv.80 my damage range will be about 200 higher (max damage).
Even if the MP recovery is noticable, it doesn't save enough money to be worth the 20 SP I could've used on a more fun to use skill(too bad it becomes fun to use afterward). Also, Steal has a better frontal range, which means it can be used in different situations. I'm the kind of person that still uses Double Stab(it's a much better finisher than SB if you train with BoT). I will probably keep using it in the 4th job too, so why not Steal? It's what makes the class fun for me: the big list of skills which are usefull for many situations. That and to be honest I don't really like BoT, or, I like it the least(OK, I like ME even less, but you get the point) of my usefull skills. A 250% frontal range attack appeals much more to me than a 100% frontal range attack with splash AoE.
Thing is, as Tay already said, Steal gets you more EXP than with SB, which is the whole point. Even if it only is for ~35 levels, it's great, and you'll max the other important skills anyway.