[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing
byakugan Wrote:I guess this makes it obvious that Nexon is not planning on making ArchMages / Bishops strong enough to boss, but rather balance them with each other. This, to me, confirms the idea of the concept Nexon Korea has of Mages, fast trainers but bad bosshunters (the total opposed to Bowmasters) and they are not plannign on changing that.

I sadly have to agree with this, which kills me to say. Draconius on SW and I got into it over this fact, as he said the major updates Nexon Korea would give to ArchMages would be to boost their mobbing abilities. Sadly, Korea doesn't get it: (1) Ultimates, as they are currently, are already stronger than they need to be. (2) Creating a class built around mobbing is FANTASTIC if there's SOMETHING ELSE TO MOB BESIDES TRAINING MONSTERS. This is the key point I don't think people really understand yet. If you understand the first point, then you'll recognize that, if Korea is trying to keep ArchMages the best mobbing class in the game, they *technically* don't need any boosts. Which is clearly untrue, as no one plays the classes. Why? Because there's nothing to look forward to with your skills. Nothing to use them on.

By all means make us the best mobbing class in the game; hell, we'd love to be a godly mobbing class over a godly single target class anyday provided we had something that actually CHALLENGED OUR MOBBING ABILITIES.

Get it together, Nexon.

Nature Wrote:From the look of it Nexon is going to give all bucs moves stunning properties and not give them passive critical.Mad

Aww, poor Buccs. Oh wait, Mages don't have passive crits either, and you still solo bosses four times faster than us. Yeah, maybe the mobbing is different, but hey, at least you get something fun and challenging to do when you level. We get to stay at Skeles - just like the last level!

Hazzy Wrote:Nice to see a Bishop Monopoly will soon crumble. Now let's do something about that Mage monopoly. .__.
Glad to see F/P finally having more powerful base skills than I/L. Now let's nerf Genesis to 600, or buff F/P and I/L to 670. There's no reason a Bishop skill should have a higher base than actual attack classes. *inb4AMPragingbishops*

Again, such a boost is not needed. Honestly I'm surprised the ultimates were strengthened at all; they're already strong enough. The element aspect of this game that completely obliterates Magician damage as a whole is what needs to be looked at, not boosting ultimates.

Fire/Ice immune mobs still take 1 damage with every ultimate cast no matter how strong you make the base attack power Wink.

Ladon Wrote:Um wow they basically made ILs the new lolFPs. Seems really unfair to me, ILs basically have nothing on FPs except for being able to freeze now. >_>;

I sadly agree Sad. But hey, at least there are more ILs!

ArbalistMaster Wrote:Another idea could be progressively stronger snipe as you level (they just made fire arrow change at level 40 and level 50 so I don't see why not). say starting with 100k til level 140 or 150, 200k at 160 or 170 and 300k afterward or something like that.

Just to clarify: the Fire Arrow change was animation changes at Lv. 40 and 50. It had nothing more to do with the skill than make it flashy.

Rick Wrote:PRAISE ALLAH, 30 MORE BASE ATTACK AT MOST, THESE UPDATES HAVE MADE LIFE COMPLETE!

That was sarcasm, they're hardly good updates. Continuously buffing ultimates shows they don't understand the problem. And the measly boost to other skills was complemented by Chief Oblivions being the only ones NOT made ice weak to form a complete slap in the face to I/L at least. They are now also starting to break the balance between I/L and F/P. Pending more I/L updates, F/P now dominate in 2nd, 3rd and 4th job.

Completely agree with this. Either design the classes to contribute something to bosses or release challenging mobbing-related content worth leveling for.

King Wrote:Tell me why NLs shouldn't be buffed?

Why do I need to play a mage when they are clearly overpowered in this game?

Why do you think that there are more than 300 level 200 mages in GMS and only like 50 level 200s in other jobs

Biggest joke on this thread.

NLs should be "buffed" in making useless skills useful, like many have already said.

We're overpowered at an aspect of the game that isn't worth playing for if it's all we get.

There are more because we have faster training skills, and BF/Anego availability is limited, so competition is fierce. I guarantee you if Bigfoot and/or Anego mini-dungeons were released, you'd see infinitely more Lv. 200 weapon attack classes as compared to Magicians.
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[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Fiel - 2010-01-05, 08:07 AM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Amnesia - 2010-01-05, 08:14 AM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Rick - 2010-01-05, 08:17 AM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Bribery - 2010-01-05, 08:41 AM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Amnesia - 2010-01-05, 08:43 AM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Stephen - 2010-01-05, 08:48 AM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Fiel - 2010-01-05, 08:50 AM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by bio9205 - 2010-01-05, 08:51 AM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Fiel - 2010-01-05, 08:55 AM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Tay - 2010-01-05, 09:00 AM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Fiel - 2010-01-05, 09:40 AM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Shidoshi - 2010-01-05, 09:42 AM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Devil - 2010-01-05, 09:45 AM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Shidoshi - 2010-01-05, 09:47 AM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Amnesia - 2010-01-05, 09:48 AM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Tay - 2010-01-05, 09:59 AM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Fiel - 2010-01-05, 10:27 AM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Beaner - 2010-01-05, 10:28 AM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Amnesia - 2010-01-05, 10:39 AM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Link - 2010-01-05, 10:47 AM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Beaner - 2010-01-05, 10:51 AM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Link - 2010-01-05, 11:11 AM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Fiel - 2010-01-05, 11:32 AM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by KaidaTan - 2010-01-05, 11:52 AM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Link - 2010-01-05, 12:04 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Manu - 2010-01-05, 12:17 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Link - 2010-01-05, 12:37 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Manu - 2010-01-05, 12:44 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by byakugan - 2010-01-05, 12:50 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Fiel - 2010-01-05, 12:55 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Manu - 2010-01-05, 12:55 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Magatia - 2010-01-05, 12:57 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by KaidaTan - 2010-01-05, 01:13 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Stereo - 2010-01-05, 01:17 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by KaidaTan - 2010-01-05, 01:20 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Sarah - 2010-01-05, 01:34 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Magatia - 2010-01-05, 01:39 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Kigaz - 2010-01-05, 01:43 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by KaidaTan - 2010-01-05, 01:43 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by MasPan - 2010-01-05, 01:44 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Magatia - 2010-01-05, 01:47 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by KaidaTan - 2010-01-05, 01:47 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by byakugan - 2010-01-05, 02:00 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Manu - 2010-01-05, 02:06 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Nature - 2010-01-05, 02:15 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Stereo - 2010-01-05, 02:20 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by KaidaTan - 2010-01-05, 02:59 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Tikey - 2010-01-05, 03:03 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by KaidaTan - 2010-01-05, 03:25 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Tikey - 2010-01-05, 03:31 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Kirov - 2010-01-05, 03:32 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Bribery - 2010-01-05, 03:46 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by IsaacGS - 2010-01-05, 03:53 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by MrFry - 2010-01-05, 04:08 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Hazzy - 2010-01-05, 05:54 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Dusk - 2010-01-05, 06:13 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Link - 2010-01-05, 06:51 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Link - 2010-01-05, 06:57 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Teppi - 2010-01-05, 06:59 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Link - 2010-01-05, 07:01 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Beaner - 2010-01-05, 07:03 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Teppi - 2010-01-05, 07:05 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Beaner - 2010-01-05, 07:06 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Link - 2010-01-05, 07:07 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Teppi - 2010-01-05, 07:08 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Link - 2010-01-05, 07:12 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Teppi - 2010-01-05, 07:12 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Beaner - 2010-01-05, 07:15 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Link - 2010-01-05, 07:19 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by KaidaTan - 2010-01-05, 07:20 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Beaner - 2010-01-05, 07:22 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Link - 2010-01-05, 07:31 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Beaner - 2010-01-05, 07:35 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Link - 2010-01-05, 07:39 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Beaner - 2010-01-05, 07:44 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Link - 2010-01-05, 07:47 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Beaner - 2010-01-05, 07:50 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Ladon - 2010-01-05, 07:51 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Beaner - 2010-01-05, 07:56 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Teppi - 2010-01-05, 07:57 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Tikey - 2010-01-05, 08:03 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Link - 2010-01-05, 08:08 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Beaner - 2010-01-05, 08:10 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Dual - 2010-01-05, 08:15 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by KaidaTan - 2010-01-05, 08:17 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by JoeTang - 2010-01-05, 08:23 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Beaner - 2010-01-05, 08:26 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Beaner - 2010-01-05, 08:33 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by KaidaTan - 2010-01-05, 08:44 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Dual - 2010-01-05, 09:02 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by KaidaTan - 2010-01-05, 09:03 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Hazzy - 2010-01-05, 09:06 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Dual - 2010-01-05, 09:13 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Hazzy - 2010-01-05, 09:15 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Bribery - 2010-01-05, 09:20 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Rick - 2010-01-05, 09:20 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Beaner - 2010-01-05, 09:29 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by King - 2010-01-05, 09:49 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Tikey - 2010-01-05, 09:52 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by KaidaTan - 2010-01-05, 09:53 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Rick - 2010-01-05, 09:56 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by King - 2010-01-05, 10:00 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Beaner - 2010-01-05, 10:02 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by King - 2010-01-05, 10:07 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by KaidaTan - 2010-01-05, 10:08 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Bribery - 2010-01-05, 10:12 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Beaner - 2010-01-05, 10:14 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by King - 2010-01-05, 10:18 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Beaner - 2010-01-05, 10:20 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by King - 2010-01-05, 10:24 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Hazzy - 2010-01-05, 10:25 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Kabanaw - 2010-01-05, 10:26 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Beaner - 2010-01-05, 10:28 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by King - 2010-01-05, 10:29 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Tikey - 2010-01-05, 10:31 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Hazzy - 2010-01-05, 10:32 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by OneSound - 2010-01-05, 10:55 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Hazzy - 2010-01-05, 11:01 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Dual - 2010-01-05, 11:58 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by JoeTang - 2010-01-05, 11:58 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by King - 2010-01-06, 12:01 AM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by KaidaTan - 2010-01-06, 12:19 AM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Russt - 2010-01-06, 12:26 AM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by KaidaTan - 2010-01-06, 12:47 AM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Avery - 2010-01-06, 01:05 AM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by motomage - 2010-01-06, 01:44 AM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Rick - 2010-01-06, 01:44 AM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Dusk - 2010-01-06, 01:50 AM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by KaidaTan - 2010-01-06, 02:57 AM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by shouri - 2010-01-06, 03:31 AM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by FrozNlite - 2010-01-06, 03:32 AM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Xakris - 2010-01-06, 04:29 AM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Schrono - 2010-01-06, 04:32 AM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Magatia - 2010-01-06, 04:32 AM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Tikey - 2010-01-06, 04:35 AM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Russt - 2010-01-06, 04:36 AM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Chilly - 2010-01-06, 04:51 AM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Tikey - 2010-01-06, 05:07 AM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Tikey - 2010-01-06, 05:11 AM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Rick - 2010-01-06, 05:18 AM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by DeanNim - 2010-01-06, 09:10 AM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Russt - 2010-01-06, 09:18 AM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by DeanNim - 2010-01-06, 10:36 AM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by King - 2010-01-06, 10:44 AM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Dusk - 2010-01-06, 11:22 AM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Stereo - 2010-01-06, 02:35 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Dual - 2010-01-06, 03:09 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by KaidaTan - 2010-01-06, 03:12 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Stereo - 2010-01-06, 03:17 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by KaidaTan - 2010-01-06, 03:18 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Fiel - 2010-01-06, 07:27 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Russt - 2010-01-06, 08:47 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Beaner - 2010-01-06, 09:50 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Shidoshi - 2010-01-06, 10:00 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Russt - 2010-01-07, 12:39 AM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Bribery - 2010-01-07, 12:42 AM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Russt - 2010-01-07, 12:44 AM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Cyanne - 2010-01-07, 02:28 AM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Alloy - 2010-01-07, 11:06 AM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Bribery - 2010-01-07, 11:47 AM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by KaidaTan - 2010-01-07, 02:08 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Bribery - 2010-01-07, 02:23 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Shidoshi - 2010-01-07, 02:25 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by KaidaTan - 2010-01-07, 02:39 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Stereo - 2010-01-07, 02:51 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Stereo - 2010-01-07, 02:58 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by KaidaTan - 2010-01-07, 02:59 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Devil - 2010-01-07, 11:45 PM
[1.2.278] Even moar skill balancing - by Dual - 2010-01-07, 11:48 PM

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