Stereo Wrote:I know DKs who claim Berserk is applied before def too. Really though I don't have either class in GMS so I can't test it myself (the only way to be sure) You'd think with the sheer number of heroes there are, their damage formula would be better known than Paladins.
Well, I'm trying to put together a do-it-yourself guide to calculating DPS for warriors, to post on Basil before I quit it again (you'd be surprised how many people post on there who could follow such a guide). The whole "before/after defense" issue does greatly change results and yet doesn't make the calculating procedure any more difficult for most jobs.
But Combo is another story. If you remember those times that I actually delved into the "obscene" (I think that was your word) calculations for PS/FA/Brandish/Panic cycles with all the double-orb charging probabilities at level 1 ACA... those, as well as the (only slightly easier) Crusader figures would have to be totally reworked if either Combo or the orb multiplier is applied before defense, as Combo at least appears to be. The orb multipliers wouldn't annoy me so much, as those apply only when using Panic/Coma, but the Combo multiplier would cause hideous changes and no hope for a direct percentage figure for DPS calculating (when ignoring defense, I've calculated the average single hit from a max Crusader using Panic immediately upon reaching 5 orbs and PS/FA cycles to be 459.2% when rounded off). I have yet to sit down and try to work it out, but it doesn't look promising. The best I'll probably be able to do is say "use this percent, then add this amount for the overapplication of defense modifiers." Yeah, I don't like it either, especially since the guide is really meant to not be for only maxed skills.