I know elemental multipliers and Charge multipliers are applied before defense is subtracted from the damage range. I'd like to know whether anyone on Basil or SP has found conclusive evidence that any of the following multipliers is applied before or after defense is subtracted: Combo, orb multipliers for Panic/Coma, Berserk, Advanced Combo.
Please post a conclusion ONLY if you have real evidence.
(NOTE: If there's no extracted data from .wz files or whatever, the next best way is probably to go by personal max or min in over 1000 trials with and without Berserk/AC/etc. That is, if one can remember their max or min spread over that many hits. If with the buff, the max or min is more than the max or min without the buff times the power of the buff, for instance more than double with Berserk, then it is applied before defense; if not, then after.)
For the record, I am going to be pissed as HELL if orb multipliers and Combo are applied before defense. An hour of work and now I'd have to totally rework the method for solving exact Crusader DPS figures.
Please post a conclusion ONLY if you have real evidence.
(NOTE: If there's no extracted data from .wz files or whatever, the next best way is probably to go by personal max or min in over 1000 trials with and without Berserk/AC/etc. That is, if one can remember their max or min spread over that many hits. If with the buff, the max or min is more than the max or min without the buff times the power of the buff, for instance more than double with Berserk, then it is applied before defense; if not, then after.)
For the record, I am going to be pissed as HELL if orb multipliers and Combo are applied before defense. An hour of work and now I'd have to totally rework the method for solving exact Crusader DPS figures.