Original General Dungeon Fighter Thread

Even with Leather getting a Cast boost, it still does not have as much as Cloth. If a Cloth wearer has the Royal Ring and Cast Speed avatars, a Leather wearer can never match them. Personally, I love it for that alone. Being able to pull out a Gravitas in the blink of an eye in PvP can really catch people off guard. And that's not to mention Cloth is the lightest and awesome for people who enjoy soloing King's dungeons (which is important to me). I just love it.

Plus, the Cloth set I wear gives me +14% Magic Critical. That's not in the same league as Leather, but it's still a beautiful amount. I don't see any other benefit to Leather, since defense means very little to me. I'll have around 22xx defense with my set when it's finished, anyway. That isn't terrible. What does that leave? Attack speed? Fair enough, but I'm quite pleased with mine.

I can definitely see why Leather is and will be the preferred choice. But I think it's silly to rule out Cloth completely. It still has its benefits. I will always wear it.

Fair enough. I don't have Gravitas yet, and Acid Rain, Lava Potion, and Jackyl are only good for zoning, so cast speed isn't very useful to me in PvP. Besides, the aerial combos and Manteau are the main strengths of a witch in PvP. I'm looking to get 20% cast speed from avatars just so they aren't painfully slow to pull out for PvE in the meantime.

I melee a lot. I'm dusted pretty much 100% of the time and my playstyle in dungeons mostly consists of placing my AoEs in the middle and darting back and forth comboing everything around with normal attacks. Not having the attack speed would make it so much harder to zoom away from monsters to avoid retaliation when I miss them. I would definitely not give it up.

Now, you can't beat the cast speed of cloth, but do you really need that much? Nearly all of the witch spells are AoE placers that last for a long time and have long cooldowns. The only ones that aren't are Chain Florae, which casts nearly instantly anyway, and regular Magic Missle, which I haven't used since level 17. I think the change to leather + a cast speed avatar or two is more than enough.

I do think it's nice how versatile witches are, though. Our styles are completely different even with similar builds. They both work, and that's what matters, I guess.

Party or solo? I play a Launcher so I'm too used to draining mp insanely fast.

Either one. I just hit level 32 today and I'm sitting on a pile of over 30 intermediate MP potions now.

I don't use many potions at all now. I have a couple dozen intermediate HP, octopus, and Blue Eucharist as well. This collection was started at level 30. Before then I had almost no potions. Been mostly doing Master/Kings Purgatorium over and over again solo, plus a few Silver Night and Dendroid Jungle runs.