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Bossing Ability Chart
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Takebacker Wrote:1) I wonder if i should be using the PB example for this again but i don't see why it matters anymore.

You are beating this pb crap to the ground. He used it as an example that the NL's attack is needed at pink bean to take it down. That's it.
Takebacker Wrote:In that case, there's a 1 hour timer currently. 60 minutes = 4 apples for a NL, and 6 for any other class that would bother using them (which is pretty much every single class since all PB runs are super srs runs). Does the NL in this case get more attacking power? No. They just save 2 apples worth of mesos, which is what? Like 6mish? (I don't keep up with apple prices because i don't use them)

For zak, if a high level NL is running, everyone pretty much just gives apples to them if they have em i guess. Zak isn't a serious boss so serious comparisons aren't necessary. (Every run i go on ends in half an hour at max without use of apples, and spending millions to half the speed of the run isn't worth it)
I personally host my own runs and give out about 12 apples to my 6 man squads, 2 each, (2 extra if someone happens to dc/lag out). See how I can pick precise scenario's to hold up my argument? Devil's statement simply said that NL's get the most out of apples out of every class. I think an extra 5 minutes would constitute that, considering thats 5 extra minutes of double your damage.

Takebacker Wrote:3) If you want to go back to the pure concept of dodging hits, devil already argued way back when that buccs are the best at that. Invincibility frames for avoiding damage > dark sight. Spamming CSB gets you the same exact result as what DS gives. For traveling purposes, there is no difference between the two.
Pure concept? No he said DS to avoid touch damage, I never recalled him saying PB or HT or such. Just in general, true statement I might add. Depending on the monster aggroed also makes your statement a possibility. The point is you went to a max extreme going to a boss like that.
Takebacker
4) Not purely NLs. Corsairs and archers too. Warriors for rushing/tanking. Mages for mob control. Every class has a purpose. By saying that you NEED a NL [b Wrote:
PURELY[/b] for their damage and nothing else, he is 1) assuming that we'll keep the 1hr time limit, which was made longer in other versions already, and 2) completely disregarding the fact that saving money is another priority that runners have to consider. If you don't save money, then you're probably wasting a ton more than you'll gain by killing him in the first place.
Did I say just Nls? No. I said that they are needed for PB for their damage, end of story.
Takebacker
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5) There are only a few users i would actually consider myself to flame. (flaming in your case being condescending tones, which still isn't actually flaming) Limiting this to users on SP (because a list of people on basil/SW would get unnecessarily long): You, and devil. Devil i almost never flame in the first place because he never posts, but when he does he always bashes nexon america out of f'ucking no where. Like i said before, if nexon releases a patch that benefits him, he kisses their ass. If not/if they screw up even if the screw up has nothing to do with him, he'll bash. Pathetic, no?

You think i flame most people because you dislike me, as i you. I never flame anyone otherwise. Feel free to dig up a post contradicting that if you want.

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As too your spoiler, calling people idiots and taking a condecending tone is offensive, and according to Magnus, isn't something most moderators tolerate. And yes, calling people idiots and ignorant is pretty contradicting to your entire post.


To your second spoiler I suggested you dropped the attitude. I used a common phrase to get it across to you. Sorry if you don't like me being blunt to you but if you hadn't in the first place maybe this wouldn't be an appropriate time now would it?


Done yet?

Oh and I have no personal quarms with you, but I will defend someone being outright attacked.
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Bossing Ability Chart - by Dusk - 2009-09-24, 10:20 AM
Bossing Ability Chart - by KhainiWest - 2009-09-24, 10:29 AM
Bossing Ability Chart - by USMC - 2009-09-24, 10:30 AM
Bossing Ability Chart - by Stereo - 2009-09-24, 10:33 AM
Bossing Ability Chart - by Dusk - 2009-09-24, 10:58 AM
Bossing Ability Chart - by MasPan - 2009-09-24, 11:24 AM
Bossing Ability Chart - by KhainiWest - 2009-09-24, 11:39 AM
Bossing Ability Chart - by MasPan - 2009-09-24, 11:47 AM
Bossing Ability Chart - by Devil - 2009-09-24, 11:56 AM
Bossing Ability Chart - by Takebacker - 2009-09-24, 12:03 PM
Bossing Ability Chart - by KhainiWest - 2009-09-24, 12:12 PM
Bossing Ability Chart - by Takebacker - 2009-09-24, 12:21 PM
Bossing Ability Chart - by KajitiSouls - 2009-09-24, 12:25 PM
Bossing Ability Chart - by KhainiWest - 2009-09-24, 12:31 PM
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Bossing Ability Chart - by Devil - 2009-09-24, 01:20 PM
Bossing Ability Chart - by Stereo - 2009-09-24, 01:23 PM
Bossing Ability Chart - by Takebacker - 2009-09-24, 02:13 PM
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Bossing Ability Chart - by KhainiWest - 2009-09-24, 03:08 PM
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Bossing Ability Chart - by Stereo - 2009-09-30, 11:10 AM
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Bossing Ability Chart - by KhainiWest - 2009-09-30, 11:51 AM
Bossing Ability Chart - by Dusk - 2009-09-30, 11:52 AM
Bossing Ability Chart - by Dual - 2009-09-30, 11:58 AM
Bossing Ability Chart - by Dusk - 2009-09-30, 12:13 PM
Bossing Ability Chart - by Devil - 2009-09-30, 12:38 PM
Bossing Ability Chart - by Stereo - 2009-09-30, 01:56 PM
Bossing Ability Chart - by Takebacker - 2009-09-30, 02:12 PM
Bossing Ability Chart - by USMC - 2009-09-30, 02:43 PM
Bossing Ability Chart - by Lozmaster - 2009-09-30, 02:59 PM
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Bossing Ability Chart - by USMC - 2009-10-09, 09:59 PM
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