2009-09-16, 04:09 PM
Morgana Wrote:Even if Joe Wilson was right that Obama was "lying" (which is silly; even if the bill didn't specifically prevent illegal immigrants from being covered, if the illegal immigrant signs up for government help, they are saying "HEY DEPORT ME K")...
Even if he was right, which I haven't read from any bipartisan source that he was, that doesn't excuse his outburst during a serious speech. It's a respect issue. Obama's the president, and he's speaking, and he deserves to be able to get his words out. Other presidents don't even get booed, like Obama was, from DULY ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES no less. They aren't children. They've been hired by their constituents to reasonably advocate their constituents' interests, not to act like fools at a concert.
I'm inclined to agree with Carter. It's certainly telling that the first president to get yelled at by a representative like this in a hundred years happens to be black.
Yes, I watched the speech. It was completely inappropriate. Worse than a loud fart at a funeral.
EDIT: There's no excuse for a "lack of a filter between his brain and his mouth". That's PART OF HIS JOB DESCRIPTION. He got elected to persuade people reasonably.
In one sense, it can be somewhat hypocritical for them to say much about this, since most politicians are corrupted left right and front to back.
What Wilson was saying that Obama lied about was the fact that there was no enforcement mechanism in the bill before he spoke, meaning that and Pedro Jose and Guadalupe could walk into a hospital and still receive care. After Wilson called Obama out, the Democrats went and added this enforcement measure soon after the speech (remember also that it was the democratic plan that was mainly being adopted, and was written without the enforcement by them.)
Now i dont know where you live, but in So Cal, it can be an issue alone in some areas with illegals. And would personally be damned if they were to put the bill through without the enforcement. Dont get me wrong, I think its fair that people should be able to migrate here from anywhere pretty much, but the fact that they do it illegally and then expect us to give them everything on a silver platter while receiving little to no taxes from them, thats just plain criminal.

