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Dexless DW vs. dexless NW
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Dusk Wrote:Exactly - even with 30k HP you can still be killed by lag. So "lol NW die if they lag" is a stupid thing to say.

Being killed in one hit at 100% HP because of lag is stupid, because for those with bad internet it really defeats the purpose of playing ranged characters. Melee characters get the luxury of getting a second or two more time to survive.

Wait, why are we going off-topic here? We are talking about NW vs DW, not Adventurer classes. Obviously any Adventurer, at a high enough level, can take two hits from Pap. Cygnus Knights are forced to be stuck at 120 for bossing, which does not leave a lot of room to HP wash if they want to, and even if they want to HP wash it seems like a complete waste when the main purpose of the Cygnus Knight is powering up the parent class. An Adventurer is better at bossing in the long run; everyone knows that.

Level 120 Nightwalkers will die in one hit from Pap at the cost of dealing loads of damage. 120 Dawn Warriors can handle 2-3 hits from Pap, YET they deal monstrous damage as well thanks to Brandish in combination with both Combos, a Soul Charge, and a Red Katana speed weapon. When the lag spike hits, the Nightwalker is more likely to die. HOWEVER, a Dawn Warrior spits on the Nightwalkers squishiness as they just keep on dealing 20-30k Brandishs. That's the gist of my argument. Nothing more, nothing less.

*With an Apple Dawn Warriors are capable of 30-50k Brandishes. Goggleemoticon

Nightwalkers are mechanically inferior to Dawn Warriors. Want better examples?

If Nightwalkers are the Chun-Li/Cammy, Dawn Warriors are the Akuma.

If Night Walkers are Crono from Chrono Trigger, Dawn Warriors are end-game Robo.

If Night Walkers are the Rogues from WoW, Dawn Warriors are the Death Knights.

If Night Walkers are the Sword Masters from Fire Emblem, Dawn Warriors are Ike.

If Night Walkers are the Blazikens, Dawn Warriors are the Garchomps.

IF NIGHT WALKERS ARE THE FRAGILER SPEEDSTERS, DAWN WARRIORS ARE THE LIGHTNING BRUISERS

Mechanically, Dawn Warriors are superior to Nightwalkers because they only lose out a little damage to make up for overall awesomeness. Nightwalkers are good. Dawn Warriors are just better.

-Mobility? Nightwalkers have Flash Jump. Dawn Warriors have a Soul version.
-Ranged attacks? Nightwalkers have Triple Throw/Avenger. Dawn Warriors have Brandish/Soul Driver (and Soul Driver hits 8 enemies instead of 6)
-Survivability? Average Nightwalkers aren't going to handle anything higher than a 3.5k-4k hit. Dawn Warriors can take 8k+ hits.
-Power Boosts? Nightwalkers have Shadow Partner and require Sharp Eyes to be uber. Dawn Warriors have Combo, Advanced Combo, and Soul Charge; Sharp Eyes is not needed for them to rock.
-Melee attacks? Nightwalkers. What melee attacks? Vampire?? Poison Sling? Dawn Warriors have Brandish.
-Mob power? Nightwalkers have a weak Avenger. Dawn Warriors rip things apart with Brandish, and massive mobs with Soul Driver.
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Dexless DW vs. dexless NW - by MrSoyMilk - 2009-08-21, 08:07 PM
Dexless DW vs. dexless NW - by Corn - 2009-08-21, 08:12 PM
Dexless DW vs. dexless NW - by Dusk - 2009-08-21, 08:35 PM
Dexless DW vs. dexless NW - by Kalovale - 2009-08-21, 09:30 PM
Dexless DW vs. dexless NW - by MasPan - 2009-08-21, 09:48 PM
Dexless DW vs. dexless NW - by Greg22 - 2009-08-21, 10:00 PM
Dexless DW vs. dexless NW - by Takebacker - 2009-08-21, 10:36 PM
Dexless DW vs. dexless NW - by IllegallySane - 2009-08-21, 10:52 PM
Dexless DW vs. dexless NW - by Ryukiroku - 2009-08-21, 11:06 PM
Dexless DW vs. dexless NW - by Viper - 2009-08-22, 04:45 AM
Dexless DW vs. dexless NW - by Shady - 2009-08-22, 05:24 AM
Dexless DW vs. dexless NW - by Dyxanije - 2009-08-22, 10:03 AM
Dexless DW vs. dexless NW - by Kalovale - 2009-08-22, 10:05 AM
Dexless DW vs. dexless NW - by Takebacker - 2009-08-22, 10:17 AM
Dexless DW vs. dexless NW - by Holypie - 2009-08-22, 10:35 AM
Dexless DW vs. dexless NW - by Takebacker - 2009-08-22, 10:55 AM
Dexless DW vs. dexless NW - by Kawasari Mimoto - 2009-08-22, 10:56 AM
Dexless DW vs. dexless NW - by Holypie - 2009-08-22, 10:59 AM
Dexless DW vs. dexless NW - by Takebacker - 2009-08-22, 11:02 AM
Dexless DW vs. dexless NW - by Greg22 - 2009-08-22, 11:41 AM
Dexless DW vs. dexless NW - by Worthyness - 2009-08-22, 11:43 AM
Dexless DW vs. dexless NW - by byakugan - 2009-08-22, 12:10 PM
Dexless DW vs. dexless NW - by Takebacker - 2009-08-22, 12:11 PM
Dexless DW vs. dexless NW - by byakugan - 2009-08-22, 12:25 PM
Dexless DW vs. dexless NW - by Management - 2009-08-22, 12:29 PM
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Dexless DW vs. dexless NW - by Corn - 2009-08-22, 04:30 PM
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Dexless DW vs. dexless NW - by Taliant - 2009-08-22, 08:33 PM
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Dexless DW vs. dexless NW - by IllegallySane - 2009-08-24, 03:32 PM
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Dexless DW vs. dexless NW - by TøbiasBlack - 2009-08-27, 05:13 PM
Dexless DW vs. dexless NW - by Shady - 2009-08-28, 05:31 AM
Dexless DW vs. dexless NW - by Devil - 2009-08-28, 09:28 AM
Dexless DW vs. dexless NW - by Lozmaster - 2009-08-28, 10:08 AM
Dexless DW vs. dexless NW - by Dusk - 2009-08-28, 12:59 PM
Dexless DW vs. dexless NW - by Shady - 2009-08-28, 01:12 PM
Dexless DW vs. dexless NW - by IllegallySane - 2009-08-28, 01:28 PM
Dexless DW vs. dexless NW - by Dusk - 2009-08-28, 01:40 PM
Dexless DW vs. dexless NW - by IllegallySane - 2009-08-28, 01:46 PM
Dexless DW vs. dexless NW - by Stereo - 2009-08-28, 01:48 PM
Dexless DW vs. dexless NW - by Dusk - 2009-08-28, 04:18 PM
Dexless DW vs. dexless NW - by IllegallySane - 2009-08-28, 11:21 PM
Dexless DW vs. dexless NW - by Dusk - 2009-08-29, 12:54 AM
Dexless DW vs. dexless NW - by Cyanne - 2009-08-29, 01:35 AM
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