2009-07-20, 06:55 PM
Using ME is garbage at pb. Ill explain in the following paragraph but if we were to go with that plan with a group of Shadowers - it would be easier if they just set up meso at the left side and then warriors rush pb to the left or wherever(maybe a little right to the throne,) so they arent constantly being bombarded by pbs attacks. It would be less hectic and much easier. The only problem would be to move ranged about face from pb so they dont get hit but who knows.
Using ME would be obsolete because last I remember, it takes just exactly 3minutes before any item disappears from when it is dropped and within this time frame, I think an average to pro-ish Shadower could set off about 14 to 18 explosions before they all of the meso poofs. 14 explosions * 20 sacks * 10k a sack = 2,800,000 mesos in 3minutes. The damage ME does is just about three times the amount dropped so thats only ~9m dmg in 3minutes. (Believe me on this. Ive done a lot of testing ME with zak back then.) Account for the time to heal and getting into ds and re-buffing mg, its a lot of unnecessary work. A Shadower within pbs level with max BS and max assassinate could deal well over 4m per minute.
If you want to talk about the neutral immunity from pb, then yeah, ME does sound good but I dont think its worth it because too risky. If a server does really get far based on this plan, I would be impressed. ~21 minutes left with pb and three shadowers? Thats at least 150m dmg with ME, less than a tenth of pbs total hp and also about a tenth of the squads power. I certainly wouldnt dismiss the idea. Just make sure you have competent runners and figure out when/how to heal. Just hiding in smoke is a waste of a minute.
Base HP for PB's Gen - 7.5k (~12k hit from it in misc videos)
Base HP for Ariel's Gen - 8.1k (Ranged shouldn't be up at the topmost platform anyway. Refer to Plana Phase 6 video on youtube.)
Using ME would be obsolete because last I remember, it takes just exactly 3minutes before any item disappears from when it is dropped and within this time frame, I think an average to pro-ish Shadower could set off about 14 to 18 explosions before they all of the meso poofs. 14 explosions * 20 sacks * 10k a sack = 2,800,000 mesos in 3minutes. The damage ME does is just about three times the amount dropped so thats only ~9m dmg in 3minutes. (Believe me on this. Ive done a lot of testing ME with zak back then.) Account for the time to heal and getting into ds and re-buffing mg, its a lot of unnecessary work. A Shadower within pbs level with max BS and max assassinate could deal well over 4m per minute.
If you want to talk about the neutral immunity from pb, then yeah, ME does sound good but I dont think its worth it because too risky. If a server does really get far based on this plan, I would be impressed. ~21 minutes left with pb and three shadowers? Thats at least 150m dmg with ME, less than a tenth of pbs total hp and also about a tenth of the squads power. I certainly wouldnt dismiss the idea. Just make sure you have competent runners and figure out when/how to heal. Just hiding in smoke is a waste of a minute.
Quantact Wrote:Cyanne, it might be helpful to put the exact HP needed in all circumstances rather than "enough to survive Anego," and the like. Most people will know what those are, but hard numbers are easier to keep track of. You'll take care of a lot of questions because the numbers will speak for themselves.Base HP for up to phase 5 - 5.3k (Whytebar from Windia lasted up to there)
Base HP for PB's Gen - 7.5k (~12k hit from it in misc videos)
Base HP for Ariel's Gen - 8.1k (Ranged shouldn't be up at the topmost platform anyway. Refer to Plana Phase 6 video on youtube.)