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What's causing all the inflation?
FrozNlite Wrote:Excellent point. So then, are you upset that people are angry? Do you want to change that? If you don't care then my next point has no merit. If you do care, then I ask how you would have wanted the merchants to go about their plan with a methodology more "morally sound," per say. Would you have liked them to tell everyone, "Hey, check out the deflating prices for meso. We know the market is about to inflate, so we're going to inflate it first."? Then the information would be out there, just like Maker or global PS3 sales, but would it help? Not in this case, because what can the average GMS player do but sit and watch the market inflate; not everyone can buy out an FM of GFAs.

I definitely see where you're coming from but I'm unsure of how else they could have informed the population. Hell, it's quite logical that people would try to make money off inflation, and since several non-marketers noticed meso selling price drops weeks ago on publicly accessible websites, can't you then also argue that the information of an impending inflation was just as public?

Just trying to play the devil's advocate Tongue. You make a great point, though.



Welcome to capitalism, as I'm sure you know more than me about. But what I'm disgusted to see is how many people are giving up because of moral convictions or hopelessness due to their inability to keep up with the current rate of inflation. Fine. Go ahead and crucify yourselves like thousands did at the onset of the Great Depression in the 1930s. Choose to lose because you're so overcome with negative emotion that you won't keep trying, keep fighting, keep hoping and thinking for how to remain true to yourself and make it through the storm. There's always a way to stay true to your moral beliefs and successfully survive in any environment; it just takes more creativity over a larger length of time to figure it out.

Believe me, I hate the idea of monopoly, of middle men, of inflation for personal gain, but in a captialist system you have to accept that these are things that will always exist in a globalized marketplace.

Yet that doesn't mean you have to accept participation in this particularmarketplace.

I mentoined coming up with ideas to remain true to yourself and still successfully survive; here's one: create a micro-economy with your guild where all products and services the members of your guild have are regulated within your own economy instead of being introduced into a failing one. Don't want to do such a plan with your guild? Insert any group in place of guild then: Horntail Squad, Zakum group, legits of *insert server*, buddy list, etc. If you don't like the way something is in real life, you protest or you create something new. I'm 100% for protest as it actually works out there, but in a game completely run by Nexon, it does diddly-squat. That leaves creating something new.

Always do SOMETHING about a predicament, never nothing.

Well said. My concern however isn't so much with player driven inflation such as the Glove Attack Scroll. I'm fine with the fact that some like to play the economic side of this game. I'm much more concerned that iCollect's claim of a mesos hack is indeed true. We all know Nexon isn't the swiftest when it comes to acknowledging or fixing problems.

As an aside, some people are making the low cost of mesos attributable to the chinese law banning sales of virtual items. I think that's a red herring as I have checked several U.S. sites that also sell other in game currencies. They are also selling at the $45 per billion and as I have noted on sw.net, they are selling in transactions of up to 5 or 10 billion with 10 minute delivery times. If their supply is finite then those prices will go up as more people are tempted to buy. If however, their supply is infinite due to a dupe hack, then those prices will go lower as competition for your dollar increases. (They may also get their supply from other sources such as chinese farmes, I have no idea how they get their supply)

New players to the game are going to be turned off not being able to purchase/upgrade gear at massively inflated prices. Even with the occasional scroll from quests, etc they're not going to compete with NX buyers (who will be selling at ever increasing ratios) and mesos buyers who won't care how much things cost because they have dirt cheap access to billions.

Perhaps Nexon willl see this as an incentive to have people buy NX since it's readily converted to mesos (currently at 10:1) Maybe they won't care how much mesos is floating around.

Some things that Nexon could do if they were ever so inclined:

1. Log all trades. (if they don't already)
2. Have a Nexon employee purchase gold from each site.
3. Identify the delivery account and all trades that account has made that are over 100 mil. Particulary 1 way trades.
4. Perma ban the delivery account, temp ban the recipients and mark them as first time mesos buyers. (Yes I know, they're may be collateral damage)

Rinse and repeat.

This won't stop mesos dropping trades of course but it would be a start.

Sorry for wall of text.


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