2009-06-30, 07:23 AM
Okay. I'm not 100% sure about the DPS for this one, but it's for Advanced Combo with FA for a Soul Master;
Here's the probability table, not that it helps much:
As you can see, FA has a considerably higher amount of probability in being in Finisher state.
I did completely consider how FA builds orbs. i.e.
Chance for one Orb:
0.4 * 0.7
Two orbs:
0.4 * 0.3 + 0.6 * 0.7 * 0.7
etc.
Finally, when applying the damage to the modifiers, had to apply with overall consideration to where your orb count is at; i.e. probability of building an orb from Brandish, and applying the new modifier to FA, etc. Using 0.48 second FA
And I find final DPS to be 1182%/s which is pretty bad compared to pure Brandish. The reason for this should be easily understood;
FA is pomegranate. Does 250% which is ~1.09x stronger than a single Brandish hit (according to some kMS players who state it's max level is 30, 230%), and it is most definitely not 0.92x or less the speed of a single Brandish slash.
i.e.
Brandish DPS: 730.16%/s
FA Standalone DPS (@480ms): 520.8%/s
FA Matching DPS (@330ms): 757.58%/s
Now, if we can time FA to be 330ms (since times seem to be in denominations of 30ms, 360ms is too slow), it would be a DPS improvement on Brandish, unless you have unmaxed Brandish, etc.
The extra damage from AC that's stacked on FA is almost meaningless. Even if Brandish had 1 Orb every time and FA had 10 Orbs every time, it'd still be weaker. Consider it; The largest difference in damage improvement to from Brandish charging orbs is .10; Orbs 1~5;
Let's say you have 1 Orb: Brandish does 1.4x damage; Brandish charges 2 Orbs; FA does 1.5x damage; Not significant.
All this for a 4% increase in Finisher probability; 320% * 1.8 * 2.5 / 0.6 = 2400% Panic; 4% of this is 96%. Definitely not more than the amount of damage you've lost for using FA.
tl;dr: DON'T USE FA WITH MAXED BRANDISH + ADVANCED COMBO
Personally, I don't recommend Finishers at all on a Soul Master though, so meh.
Here's the probability table, not that it helps much:
| 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | Finisher | |
| FA | 0.0455 | 0.0800 | 0.0822 | 0.0764 | 0.0780 | 0.0785 | 0.0780 | 0.0781 | 0.0782 | 0.1625 | 0.1625 |
| FA-Less | 0.0789 | 0.0891 | 0.0860 | 0.0869 | 0.0867 | 0.0867 | 0.0867 | 0.0867 | 0.0867 | 0.1127 | 0.1127 |
As you can see, FA has a considerably higher amount of probability in being in Finisher state.
I did completely consider how FA builds orbs. i.e.
Chance for one Orb:
0.4 * 0.7
Two orbs:
0.4 * 0.3 + 0.6 * 0.7 * 0.7
etc.
Finally, when applying the damage to the modifiers, had to apply with overall consideration to where your orb count is at; i.e. probability of building an orb from Brandish, and applying the new modifier to FA, etc. Using 0.48 second FA
And I find final DPS to be 1182%/s which is pretty bad compared to pure Brandish. The reason for this should be easily understood;
FA is pomegranate. Does 250% which is ~1.09x stronger than a single Brandish hit (according to some kMS players who state it's max level is 30, 230%), and it is most definitely not 0.92x or less the speed of a single Brandish slash.
i.e.
Brandish DPS: 730.16%/s
FA Standalone DPS (@480ms): 520.8%/s
FA Matching DPS (@330ms): 757.58%/s
Now, if we can time FA to be 330ms (since times seem to be in denominations of 30ms, 360ms is too slow), it would be a DPS improvement on Brandish, unless you have unmaxed Brandish, etc.
The extra damage from AC that's stacked on FA is almost meaningless. Even if Brandish had 1 Orb every time and FA had 10 Orbs every time, it'd still be weaker. Consider it; The largest difference in damage improvement to from Brandish charging orbs is .10; Orbs 1~5;
Let's say you have 1 Orb: Brandish does 1.4x damage; Brandish charges 2 Orbs; FA does 1.5x damage; Not significant.
All this for a 4% increase in Finisher probability; 320% * 1.8 * 2.5 / 0.6 = 2400% Panic; 4% of this is 96%. Definitely not more than the amount of damage you've lost for using FA.
tl;dr: DON'T USE FA WITH MAXED BRANDISH + ADVANCED COMBO
Personally, I don't recommend Finishers at all on a Soul Master though, so meh.