Ask a Magician Thread.

In 3rd job, it's easier for questing if you get 1 SR as the promotion point, and you will still max HS at the same level IIRC.



Also... ewwww level 20 Gen right away? I hope you have a lot of MP because you'll be dying at Skeles in like 2 hits after a Gen. It's pointless to raise Gen until it changes the number of hits to KO. For most (not godly-funded) Bishops, they can't 2hko Skeles no matter what until 130 or later, while they will 100% 3hko fairly easily. So it's a huge waste of MP and danger of death to have Gen above 1, or maybe 5 so you can go ahead and pass Gen20. Mine is level 5 and I'm saving points because 1) I can't afford Gen30 until Time Temple and 2) I use Gen at bosses a lot (Zak arms), so level 5 is better DPS without sacrificing my training too much.

A friend of mine has like level 18 Gen at the same level as me, but his equips aren't as good, so we both 3hko. He still 3hko'ed when he had 5 Gen. But now he uses a good 3-4x the pots at Skeles as me, and only uses Ginger Ales because he needs to pot after almost every hit, whereas I can use Ginger Ales as well as cheaper MP pots.

Then again, I haven't broken 10k MP yet because I'm not LUKless, so I guess if you had like 12k MP at level 127, 4k per cast wouldn't be AS big of an issue, though I can't really see it not factoring in at ALL.

Before you're going to say that I should try an AM's MP cost, I should note that Bishops have no freeze (unlike I/Ls or F/Ps with Elquines), so we get hit. A lot. Especially at Skeles. Getting lasered at Skeles is about the same MP as casting Gen. And you will get lasered a LOT if you 3hko, especially on the top.

I would say to get at least 9 MW before you start adding more than 1 point to Gen, maybe even 19 if you can. It adds almost as much damage and is essentially free. (Except passing MW20, but again, that's not as bad as passing Gen30.)

Also, due to holy advantage, you'll 1hko Harps after you 2hko Skeles. (I don't really train at Harps since it's like 12%/hour, but it's a good farming spot, and if you sell leech it's beneficial to 1hko.) I do not know about Newties because I never train there.

tldr; Based on my experience so far, I'd recommend at least 1 Gen and 1 Res at job advance, get MW to 9 or 19 and Gen to 5, then save points until you can 2hko Skeles at a decent rate. (Calculate it out.) Otherwise, it wastes millions in MP pots and makes death at Skeles more likely, without speeding up training.


If you can pass Gen30 (at 300mil a pop), you have a lot of MP, and money is no object, then go ahead and max Gen right away. I did meet a Bishop at my job advance who said he could 1hko Harps with level 1 Gen, which is like 50% more damage than me. If you are at that point, then sure, get Gen fast, I guess. o_O

The two 4th job Bishop skills that are most important to grinding are Maple Warrior and Genesis. You're talking about Skeles, but I liked soloing on Newts. When you reach 2hko Newts, you basically stay there because 1hko on Newts is hard for a Bishop unless he's the highest level and has extremely good gear. Skeles are technically better experience, but they require more attention while grinding, and you have to have an attacker at the bottom or the grinding blows. On Newts you can have attacker or no attacker, you still train fast. Of course I quit before the new mini-dungeons came out, so my methods may be obsolete right now.

While Gen30 is very expensive, it's not as expensive as it used to be. I lucked out, passing mine on the first try and I got it for like 270 mil. I think for what you're getting, Gen 30 is the best deal. The 50 ma att is nice, but the decrease in casting cost is simply a must if money is at all an issue.