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Please...Nexon...
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MysticHLE Wrote:No, we have not all gone through the same or similar experiences in MS. Those who believe that need to get their head out of the well that's now filled with fresh water and go drink the water in the seas. And I'm sure you've honestly talked to every one of them to know exactly why they quit. </sarcasm>

Your final statement in this quote is exactly the point I'm making in this thread, which I think you missed big time and even contradicted yourself on in your own post.



That is not true. I have a few 14x players in my guild who only logs on about once a week at whenever leisure time they have. There are also other countless folks who only had buddies before guilds were released. That was an era of MS in which you can achieve your own things on your own pace and still get reasonably far. There was no 4-hour 2x cards. And even without them, I know enough who have leveled to 14x or 15x just on leisure time, but they're the grinders and they have the patience, even slow as it may be.

It's not about how much of a time window you have to put into the game each time you play. With time and patience, any person can theoretically get to level 200. But there is a limitation on the average human tolerance, and that is something that the design of this game has failed to incoporate itself into.



Balanced in the sense that every class is good at something particular, and is not limited by design flaws and restrictions...which this game fails at.

A small example:

Arch Mages train fast, but don't get into much bosses.
NLs train considerably slower, but they do get into bosses.

But is the EXP from the bossing opportunities really on par with the EXP of a a mage who can train anytime? Bosses are constantly limited by 2 times a day factor (not to mention most large-scale bosses give horrible EXP) and the social/organization factor. Is it really a true sense of balance that is achieved when the game is designed like this?

Then you got your true underdog class who train slow without an AM and don't even get into much bosses like Paladins, Shadowers, and Corsairs - who also lack decent party skills. Why is the overall enjoyment factor of this game so low and restricted for certain classes, if not all?

Sure we have our friends and guildmates to hang out with and talk to, but how much do we have in terms of the actual game? And from what I've spoken to people who have quit (for reasons other than RL), this last question is fundamental to why they quit and chose to move onto other games like WOW and RO.

Bossing isn't for EXP (unless it's Bigfoot or Anego), it's for money. AMs burn money like no tomorrow, even with NLC pots. If you're a poor AM who can't afford to ult, training is slower than melee classes. It's just like the saying the grass is greener on the other side. Melee classes want fast training, and Mages want bossing ability.


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Please...Nexon... - by MysticHLE - 2009-06-06, 06:27 AM
Please...Nexon... - by draconius - 2009-06-06, 06:31 AM
Please...Nexon... - by Rick - 2009-06-06, 06:31 AM
Please...Nexon... - by MysticHLE - 2009-06-06, 06:34 AM
Please...Nexon... - by Rick - 2009-06-06, 06:45 AM
Please...Nexon... - by draconius - 2009-06-06, 06:46 AM
Please...Nexon... - by Rick - 2009-06-06, 06:48 AM
Please...Nexon... - by MysticHLE - 2009-06-06, 06:51 AM
Please...Nexon... - by Rick - 2009-06-06, 06:56 AM
Please...Nexon... - by draconius - 2009-06-06, 06:58 AM
Please...Nexon... - by MysticHLE - 2009-06-06, 07:03 AM
Please...Nexon... - by draconius - 2009-06-06, 07:08 AM
Please...Nexon... - by Rick - 2009-06-06, 07:11 AM
Please...Nexon... - by MysticHLE - 2009-06-06, 07:24 AM
Please...Nexon... - by draconius - 2009-06-06, 07:37 AM
Please...Nexon... - by MysticHLE - 2009-06-06, 07:39 AM
Please...Nexon... - by Providence - 2009-06-06, 07:44 AM
Please...Nexon... - by MysticHLE - 2009-06-06, 07:50 AM
Please...Nexon... - by Nikkey - 2009-06-06, 08:12 AM
Please...Nexon... - by IcyGreenTea - 2009-06-06, 08:16 AM
Please...Nexon... - by VladTheLvr - 2009-06-06, 08:19 AM
Please...Nexon... - by Drycona - 2009-06-06, 08:31 AM
Please...Nexon... - by MysticHLE - 2009-06-06, 08:42 AM
Please...Nexon... - by Kabanaw - 2009-06-06, 08:56 AM
Please...Nexon... - by MysticHLE - 2009-06-06, 08:59 AM
Please...Nexon... - by Holypie - 2009-06-06, 09:21 AM
Please...Nexon... - by Gstatue - 2009-06-06, 09:32 AM
Please...Nexon... - by Eos - 2009-06-06, 09:34 AM
Please...Nexon... - by Kabanaw - 2009-06-06, 09:49 AM
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Please...Nexon... - by Sivrat - 2009-06-06, 12:31 PM
Please...Nexon... - by MysticHLE - 2009-06-06, 12:32 PM
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Please...Nexon... - by MysticHLE - 2009-06-06, 12:44 PM
Please...Nexon... - by Dusk - 2009-06-06, 12:47 PM
Please...Nexon... - by FelixTM - 2009-06-06, 12:51 PM
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Please...Nexon... - by Dusk - 2009-06-06, 01:32 PM
Please...Nexon... - by Jared - 2009-06-06, 01:34 PM
Please...Nexon... - by Outland - 2009-06-06, 02:02 PM
Please...Nexon... - by Nikkey - 2009-06-06, 02:22 PM
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Please...Nexon... - by Outland - 2009-06-06, 06:54 PM
Please...Nexon... - by crewe127 - 2009-06-06, 08:43 PM
Please...Nexon... - by MysticHLE - 2009-06-06, 09:19 PM
Please...Nexon... - by Sivrat - 2009-06-06, 09:47 PM
Please...Nexon... - by MysticHLE - 2009-06-06, 10:10 PM
Please...Nexon... - by MaplesGrandGM - 2009-06-06, 10:20 PM
Please...Nexon... - by Fiel - 2009-06-06, 10:20 PM
Please...Nexon... - by Holypie - 2009-06-06, 10:45 PM
Please...Nexon... - by Dusk - 2009-06-06, 11:28 PM
Please...Nexon... - by MysticHLE - 2009-06-07, 01:48 AM
Please...Nexon... - by Jared - 2009-06-07, 01:55 AM
Please...Nexon... - by MysticHLE - 2009-06-07, 02:00 AM
Please...Nexon... - by Jared - 2009-06-07, 02:05 AM
Please...Nexon... - by MysticHLE - 2009-06-07, 02:13 AM
Please...Nexon... - by Jared - 2009-06-07, 02:31 AM
Please...Nexon... - by MysticHLE - 2009-06-07, 02:54 AM
Please...Nexon... - by Jared - 2009-06-07, 03:17 AM
Please...Nexon... - by MysticHLE - 2009-06-07, 03:26 AM
Please...Nexon... - by ItzTaylor - 2009-06-07, 04:05 AM
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Please...Nexon... - by DeanNim - 2009-06-07, 09:21 AM
Please...Nexon... - by Shidoshi - 2009-06-07, 09:45 AM
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Please...Nexon... - by VladTheLvr - 2009-06-07, 11:42 AM
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Please...Nexon... - by Derimed - 2009-06-07, 02:29 PM
Please...Nexon... - by Typhoon - 2009-06-07, 07:37 PM
Please...Nexon... - by MysticHLE - 2009-06-07, 09:01 PM
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