2009-05-19, 07:31 AM
draconius Wrote:You know how many actually do this? Barely any, so please stop characterizing even a reasonable portion of the population like that. Bishops are characterized as some 50-70% low luk/luk, and 30-50% lukless. Of the lukless ones, we'll be fair and say half of them are reasonably funded or sell leech. Of that, maybe half or 2/3rds will consider an Ele wand, and out of that we have what is basically some 2-5% of the entire bishop population actually owning any of the lvl 130 ele wands. You keep telling me that bishops leech and thus are able to purchase it through leech money, yet, to get this weapon, a bishop would have to leech 100+ hrs at skelegons to fund it, and thats if they sell for enough to defray pot costs. Even the power leechers that do some 14hrs on weekends will need a month or so to save up for this.
Furthermore, the money/stat ratio to upgrade these things is hardly the best one out there. A decently scrolled Lvl 64 maple weapon will sell for some 100-150Mill and have some 100+ stats or so. A CRAPPY Ele wand 6 or 8 will sell for 600-700Mill,a nd will have maybe a 40-50Stat increase at best over the maple weapon. Thats some 550Mill for a 40 stat boost, which comes out to 10M/stat. Again, I can find a list of things that can be upgraded for cheap compared to these, and therefore it can be argued that this is an END GAME upgrade for bishops, whereas archmages buy this FIRST. What this means is that only the most wealthy of bishops would ever consider buying one of these, whereas most will be content with a shield/cape/earring upgrade instead. More to the point, it only really matters when you're about to 1hit skeles anyways (since who the heck would be thinking of buying an ele wand first if they can't 2hit 'em), incidentally meaning that Genesis would be maxed, which is another financial hurdle to overcome.
This all boils down to a very small sect of bishops that are able to purchase these wands, and yet we're going to say that they have no right to use them? This isn't a food shortage; its a luxury shortage. It's more comparable to the Hilton running out of caviar than it is to hungry masses running out of bread because this isn't a NECESSITY. Archmages won't keel over and die if they don't have a wand, and if they really wanted the 25% bonus, it doesn't exactly kill them to buy 1-4, which presumably few if any bishops would ever be "collecting" or using. Therefore, this is a WANT, not a NEED. A NEED can be justified as requiring extraordinary conditions from Nexon, but a WANT is simply just a desire for a desireable outcome. Yeah, it'll help mages if they can 2hit or onehit earlier, but they won't be unable to play the game without them, which is a fallacy that many people are making at this point. If Nexon really thought that these things SHOULD go to archmages because they need them, the droprate for them would be much higher, or they would drop from mobs. That they are instead a rare gachapon drop suggests that this is indeed a luxury, and the availability of luxuries is dictated by a market. Bishops that purchased their wands owe absolutely nothing to archmages because they purchased them at market value. There was an equality of opportunity there for archmages to purchase them as well, but then again, none of you are terribly interested in 6 and 8 in the first place.
Why do people keep missing what I'm saying? I had a problem with that one person that supposedly bought multiple ones. I'll just say this right now:
I DO NOT CARE IF BISHOPS BUY ELEMENTAL WEAPONS. IF THEY GET A USE OUT OF THEM, THEN THEY SHOULD BUY IT.
While I would prefer Bishops couldn't use the weapons, I have no problems with them using them as long as they get an advantage. I just didn't like it when one specific bishop supposedly bought multiple wands for no reason other than aesthetics. I never said anything against Bishops buying one wand.
Ray Wrote:Just remember nexon's in it for the profit, and as a few people have said, eweps come from gach, and if they make it undesirable for bishops (perhaps the most popular class by far) then they'd lose alot of gach income.
In a sense, nexon would rather screw over I/Ls and F/Ps than bishops, majority rules here, sorry AMs, shoulda picked cleric on your 2nd job adv.
This thread is just getting more and more circular. It's already been argued that Nexon won't change ele weapons because they lose profit; It's already been argued that it's rare for people to go to gach EXCLUSIVELY to find an elemental weapon. They'd lose a few thousand dollars at most, which when already looking at their gigantic profit margin isn't that much.

