Combattente Wrote:Yeah. And I'm really glad CEF got owned. They're doing the right thing, this is the only way to kill hackers: shutting down hacking forums. Once all the hacking forums will be down, nobody will be able to hack anymore. I mean, only pro hackers will be able to.Or you could kill hackers a more sensible way. When has using the law to fight human nature ever worked? Do you even understand the reasons why some choose to hack?
Some do it to get an unfair advantage, yes. Others do it as a form of revenge. Others do it simply because they like to deconstruct things and figure out how they work and use that knowledge to construct other things.
The only ones you can kill off are the ones that use it for revenge or unfair advantages. You can make it so they don't want to exact revenge by making it so they're never "wronged" in the first place (think harassment, KSing). For those that want unfair advantages, it's easy enough to permanently ban them because they're after concrete, material rewards.
However, the last group is expressing human nature. You will not kill these, no matter what legal steps you take. They will always be there and increasing the penalties for these "crimes" (yeah, human nature is a crime now, didn't you get the memo?) will never reduce their numbers. The bigger the puzzle, the bigger the mystery, the harder the challenge, the bigger the draw.
FelixTM Wrote:And it's amazing that they are. I hope Nexon keeps trying and fighting this crap. I hate that people encourage and perpetuate garbage like PSs and especially hacks.Dangerous attitude to have. "They have my opinion, so I hope they keep abusing the law to get the outcome I want."
Abusing the law DOES NOT WORK. The Cheat Engine forums are not bound by any terms Nexon sets forth unless the owner of the forums agrees to Nexon's insignificant terms. Distribution of the .wz files, okay. Fine. That's copyright infringement because they clearly have Nexon proprietary material.
The proper response to this, then, is not taking down a website, but removing the infringing material.
Do you not understand the implications? DMCA is not a catch-all for stopping free speech. It's used to stop uncontrolled copyright violations. You cannot say that the hacking section for MapleStory infringes Nexon's copyright without files that do so, because it doesn't.
The argument that it "damages their profit" could be used for anything. Hey, the Internet damages the profit of newspapers. The Internet "damages" profits for record companies. The Internet "damages" the profits of Internet businesses! Yet no ISPs are being sued.
Or, in a more accurate example, third party markets for car parts damages the car manufacturer's profits. If you think designing and manufacturing cars is not a creative act, then ???. The point is that computers SHOULD BE no different from any other industry. The only difference is that it's infinitely easier and less costly to create duplicates of anything imaginable. Okay. So what makes sense here is to go completely against that idea of progress and outlaw it!
The legal system was NOT designed for what we've experienced these last 20-25 years. There are a lot of issues with copyright, but it's getting way out of hand.
"Yay because they share my opinion" only works until they don't share your opinion. Mr. Korn has even specified that he has no problem with "the Southperry," "but you've got to stay away from cracking codes and extracting" [don't remember the exact quote, can't be bothered to dig up that phone conversation] and tried to stop Fiel from doing his thing. Fiel received a DMCA complaint, I believe. You can't tell me that what Fiel was doing here wasn't fair use.
This isn't theory, this is a real example of free speech infringement using copyright as a guise for "whatever the pineapple I want." No. That's not how it works.
I don't like hackers as much as the next guy and I don't play any private servers, but I respect their right to speech. Something we clearly disagree on.