Harrisonized Wrote:How can a relationship work without manipulation going on? Maybe the connotation is wrong, but all of our behaviors manipulate the surroundings in some way.
What negative attitude? If you're only posting this to display your attitudes towards me, this is not the place to do it, the Pits of Hell is a more appropriate forum to rant.
That's not very good advice. Things don't happen on their own, as I had mentioned earlier, following this method is the equivalent of leaving everything to chance. Also, the latter part on moving on has already been mentioned.
I never talked about being a prick or an pimento. I merely said that should Johnny support his decision to court the girl, rather than shy away in order to conform to the norm of his school (which apparently is "stay away from the opposite gender"), then he will seem like a much more confident person, which is a bonus.
Truly people who can't accept who you are and what you believe in are the pricks.
So you're saying that even if someone has the best decision that anyone ever designed, you're going to just toss it away only because THAT particular person made it?
I'm not saying that my ideas are the best, but why should you let something as trivial as this soil your perceptions?
First, what I said had nothing to do with any previous issues I had with you - those are in the past. Don't turn this thread into an argument, he wants help, and that's the easiest way to ensure that he doesn't get it. As for manipulation, the essence of the word is to exploit something in your favor in attempt to get what you want. Relationships revolve around choice and compromise, not working things to your advantage.
Second, my advice was meant to encourage him to not push things too fast or too far, and had nothing to do with letting things happen on their own (I said naturally, meaning don't put undue pressure on things, not sit idly by and wait). If you read, you'd see that I advised to spend time with her, and to let that time shape how their friendship or relationship might develop in the future. A relationship may not be the best thing they could have together - so, while I was trying to encourage him to go for it and spend time with her, date her, etc, I also wanted to make it clear that things don't always work, and not to be heartbroken if they don't.