[Notice/GM Blog]We are Family!

do you really want to encourage "T> Family points for leech!"? I certainly don't. I'm diametrically opposed to leeching in all forms, but the last thing we need is to give the lower levels a bargaining chip to encourage them to try to trade for leeching. This is like the nightmare scenario that could come about. Th thing with Family is, you don't *Have* to ever speak to them again. I mean, the fact that most of the english community in KMS had level 200 Korean great-grandfathers just goes to prove it. They probably didn't have a clue there were 20 english people in their family. That's why I'm calling it "slavery" instead of "family". All you do is pick people to make them work for you. You benefit, they get nothing. You can share with them, if you want, but you're in no way obligated.

Well, that's where I was hoping we'd differ. I do like helping people, as long as it's not "I stand here and you kill for me," stuff. And it's better than 10mil per hour for 1 hour leech. =/
I do think leech is okay, because I don't want to spend 200 or more hours grinding, or even 100+ with double exp.
And if some of my family doesn't want to talk to me, so be it. That's their loss. I'll talk to those who are friendly, etc. My own bl is quiet except when they're annoying, so I'll look forward to having new people to talk to. (No offense Dryc. You don't count, you're never on to be quiet. )

And I'd hardly say judging by time is impractical. Typically, we get things within one year. There's a 10-14 month range where things usually reach GMS after they've been in KMS. If something has been out in KMS for 16 months and we STILL don't have it, there had better be a really good pineappleing reason why. And there is no good reason for why monster book is taking so long. It's not like it was set in stone, that you have to release all the monsters you want in the monster book before it comes out; it's designed to be added on to over time. They could have easily released it in December, and then added the Twisted Masters to the Monster Book afterward.

I was saying that it's not an exact art. I don't like putting a time on things. "Oh, 1 more month to go," then be disappointed, or "awww, I have to wait 10 months for that." And we just got family system after a few months right? I'm just saying let's not all rely on it any more than just an example time-range.
As for the monster book, I didn't mean so much as the content that's in it already, more the custom content from Masteria and Amoria. It's easier to remove than add, and knowing GMS Nexon, they probably want to do something special for their Masteria book content.

I mean, yeah, I wasn't like counting on the monster book this whole time. There were things we needed to release before the Monster Book could come. For example, we needed all the areas that were out at the time of Monster Book's first edition. When Monster Book was created in KMS, we still needed Leafre, Ariant, Magatia, Area Bosses 1 and 2, Horntail, and a few other things. It couldn't have come that soon. But, ever since we got Magatia in December, we've had everything we needed to get it. December would also have been 13 months, so it fell right into the average prediction window.

And yet it's been continually held off for an additional 3 months now. Don't you think 16 months is just a tad ridiculous? I mean, Maker, I can understand, it's not even a year old yet. But monster book? No one can argue that it's not way overdue.

Yeah, I do want all of it too. I also want pq's that have a level limit to have their bosses released outside of the pq so I can have fun with that. We can't control Nexon 100%, outside of feedback and hoping they read the forums, so let's just hope we get it at some point, instead of saying that they're late. Because, no offense, I don't remember them ever saying that it would be released with Magatia. Though I do remember hearing about something like it to be released before the end of the 1st quarter of '09.

If that's the case you can boil everything down to vanity. Why level past 130 or so? You've already had all your skills, nothing new is going to be available. why get lots of fame? You only need 20 for dark equips. Why do any quests at all? The rewards are minuscule in comparison to the effort in most cases. Why collect event items like snowboards? They're not useful to most classes. pineapple, why even play the game? It's not getting you anything tangible in the real world.

I think you're drastically underestimating the usefulness and interest in such a collecting system. Some people just like collecting stuff, and I think that those people are quite a large group. A larger group than the number of people who are going to extensively benefit from the family system as opposed to people who are simply going to be used by it. I definitely don't intend on using that system when it comes out in GMS so it will have 0 impact on my playing, but the monster book's going to have an enormous impact because it'll give me something to do when I'm wandering the world and I'll be a lot more likely to play Maple when I can go hunt monster book cards as opposed to now, where I basically wander around randomly until I get bored and log off. I mean hell, just by having the Monster Book in the data, Everyone gets a 100% accurate drop list. That's reason enough that everyone should want it.

I think he didn't mean that type of vanity. He meant it as a UI update, or something equivalent to quest helper, except that you have to earn it. But really, you said it yourself. It'd be fun like quests, and would be done by the people whom enjoy those type of things. And you level to get stronger and have the satisfaction of feeling stronger and getting closer to HornedTail, etc, so that's why they do it. Personally, the only thing I want gone and optional is the grinding.

So yeah, both of ya'lls points are valid. Just thought I'd get a bit more in-depth. Basically more 2 cents. You'll be rich after awhile, huh?