2009-03-27, 03:12 AM
eos367 Wrote:Extremely off topic counter-argument
Evilince Wrote:While Lunia being all server sided does help with the hacking it does not stop everything. I played lunia from CB and it was all server sided then. It didn't stop people from PEing. I remember they used to do them quests where you deliver a letter to a stage and it was instant repeatable. The PEers would just stay in square and send the letter from there over and over. I will admit, CB and OB pretty much had no gameguard or whatever at all. But people can bypass that anyway.
On another note having everything server sided has a lot of down sides. And they can be extremely anoying down sides at times.
More on topic thought its funny that you should mention Lunia in a thread about trading seeing as Lunias trade setup used to be the worst around. People were so easily scammed without them doing anything.
Both replies are so interesting, I really wish you guys were in my server.
I am really aware of everything you both guys were saying. It was just a quick example of : whatever the problem is a solution could exist, question is the cost.
first I really I had a smile on Evilince reply about trade set up in Lunia, i totally agree with you, yet it was funny how they screwed that up.
Anyway for instance the solution they found for Lunia could definitely not be used for MS, as EOS said, it is totally impossible MS switch to a totally server side game, unless they would go to a real drastic redesign of all the software. And also a strict hash-code test can be totally bypassed : the guys we are fighting against are at least equally if not more smarter than GameGuard tech guys. I mean I'm a IT managing director in a software company and I am very well aware of this very issue because it's my daily work. Solution is very costly: weekly (at least) change heavily crypted processes to check client files/memory heap access/ etc.. It's impossible to drop to a 0% hacking possiblity but it's possible to lower it a lot more than it is right now : it's just that the Nexon business roadmap isn't hurt that much by this effect so why should they care and spend extra $ on it.
P.S. english isn't my mother tongue and for such a long post I probably did a few grammar and spelling mistakes, please spare me

