Liar Tree Sap 100%

I read over your example again and I still have no idea how you can form such a connection. In your example, the intention was tricking someone into drinking the Sprite, and then telling that someone that the Sprite was spiked. You think a company would intentionally trick their own customers into getting banned? Nexon has better things to do than to kill off their own customers.

Part of the original purpose of the first example was to parody your logic (oh wait you have none >_>). "Hey, Nexon didn't say it's a glitch, so it's not a glitch!" Doesn't matter if they intended to deceive you or not. Deception is going around anyways.

Define the "right" direction.

*facepalms* Not the direction you're looking, based on that statement. And it's not sin(-PI/2) either. Just for your entertainment, the "right" direction is staying on the argument point's subject which I specifically criticized you on. I originally quoted you on your example thinking on the BF glitch:

1) The bigfoot glitch wasn't a glitch until they declared it a glitch. Only people gaining more than a certain ratio of exp gain after the announcement were banned for misconduct, and even so, misconduct bans don't take you off rankings.

There's nothing here about Tree Saps, and I mentioned nothing about Tree Saps. Why you responded to my criticism with

Using Liar Tree Saps has nothing to do with trickery.

is almost a complete mystery to me.

How would you know that they were legit white scrolls? The point is that you don't and you can't, because Nexon never made ID numbers attached to individual items. ALL the duped items appear the same to Nexon.

Thus, there must have been some method (such as using more than x amount of white scrolls during the period) that would allow them to distinguish (whether accurate or not) who to ban or not. It's unfortunate, but that's a risk that several people have already taken.

That is an incredibly naive assumption to make. How would you know that Nexon never made ID numbers attached to individual items? This is a black box scenario; you can't just tell people what's inside the box, because you can't, and never will. Same applies for me: I can't tell you for a fact what's in the box. I took a shot in the dark, and you decided mine was wrong and proposed your own shot in the dark. Both ideas work (to a degree), but is that what Nexon really used? But it's a reasonable assumption that Nexon would have some server-side security, whatever it may be.

Furthermore, GMs aren't a myth. They would have definitely seen something going on, and I highly doubt that they're stupid enough to not know that something wrong is going on with an item as rare and valuable and coveted as a White Scroll, as you're lucky enough to even see ONE in the FM (during non-event periods).

However, on the brighter side, since there is no method at which Nexon can distinguish who was using legit white scrolls or duped ones, they cannot issue a permanent ban.

GMs can always issue a permanent ban.

Also, depending on the details and security of their game, they could deduce beyond a shadow of a doubt that someone was duping White Scrolls. It's a lot like proving something in math.

Using consequences to explain something is the same as using hindsight as an explanation. It's like losing a slot machine and then watching someone else win on a different machine, then saying "I should've played that machine instead and I'd have the payout."

Hindsight explanations don't work for me. So far, the only thing that has caught my attention in the 5 pages of this thread is that other versions have the nose, and they work on only their event noses. However, that's not convincing to me as some "glitches" (that people are so quick to come to the conclusion of) have actually become features. As mentioned in one of the threads before, HP washing are both glitches that became features. This may well end up the same way, since it requires a gachapon item.

[COLOR="Red"]Not really. Hindsight is looking back at something in the past, whereas consequences can be irrespective of time. You can actually PREDICT consequences. In the example I wrote out, you could have stopped yourself when you figured something was funny about the water. You weren't completely dumbfounded when you learned for sure what the consequences would have been.

Did you not read the amount of parallels there were in my example? There is nothing in there relying on luck either.

Also, since I have the feeling I'm not looking at this in the same perspective you are, care to give an example relating to either the BF glitch or the White Scroll dupes?[/COLOR]

I don't remember Nexon ever having made an official address. If such a thing exists, please do show it kindly.

Seriously, we all use common sense. Only yours lets you go on the dangerous side, and your id lets greed override your decisions.