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BM vs MM after KMST updates
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Stereo Wrote:With the difference being 380 to 500(Hurricane) , I guess so.

Say 150 vs. 170 total atk (eg. 126 Neschere/106 Nisrck) brings it up to 460 to 500. Then the 15 Snipes per minute have to deal the damage of the other 40 arrows. (meaning 3 arrows each). If it's only 150 to 160, drop that to 433:500, for 4 extra arrows each.

So if your average per arrow is under 50k and you have 20 more atk it's not unreasonable to say Marksmen would end up stronger. If we keep the 100k cap and only have 10 more atk, it's an average of 20k.


Since each arrow averages 232%, those are base ranges under 8600 (possible to breakk with Apples) and 21500 (unlikely).

So yeah, SI makes the Marksmen stronger. But you also lose out 1 attacker. Assuming the 1 target damage thread is reasonably accurate, Buccaneers do about 70% the damage of a Bowmaster. Meaning 5x Bowmaster party -> 1x Buccaneer + 4x Marksmen needs an extra 8% damage per Marksmen just to balance out the Buccaneer.

So I'd look for about 110% damage with SI to make it worthwhile to bring Marksmen. This leads to +50 on the arrows, for 6/Snipe = 28k per arrow = 12300 average base. With the Marksman still 13% ahead on w.atk of course.

If you can get a Bowmaster over 12k base it's better than even 200k/4s snipe. I believe this is marginally possible now, using Apples - you only need a 21 glove and Bow+Cape+Shoe adding to 147 atk.

But if you more archers than 6-person parties, you can put marksmen in melee parties, who will also benefit from the extra SE.
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BM vs MM after KMST updates - by DrRusty - 2009-03-18, 11:53 PM
BM vs MM after KMST updates - by JoeTang - 2009-03-18, 11:55 PM
BM vs MM after KMST updates - by DrRusty - 2009-03-18, 11:55 PM
BM vs MM after KMST updates - by JoeTang - 2009-03-18, 11:56 PM
BM vs MM after KMST updates - by IllegallySane - 2009-03-18, 11:56 PM
BM vs MM after KMST updates - by DrRusty - 2009-03-18, 11:57 PM
BM vs MM after KMST updates - by JoeTang - 2009-03-19, 12:05 AM
BM vs MM after KMST updates - by ChaosCorpse - 2009-03-19, 12:21 AM
BM vs MM after KMST updates - by Stereo - 2009-03-19, 12:24 AM
BM vs MM after KMST updates - by Chameleonic - 2009-03-19, 12:26 AM
BM vs MM after KMST updates - by Phoenix - 2009-03-19, 12:40 AM
BM vs MM after KMST updates - by KaidaTan - 2009-03-19, 01:04 AM
BM vs MM after KMST updates - by Kevvl - 2009-03-19, 01:13 AM
BM vs MM after KMST updates - by Derimed - 2009-03-19, 01:23 AM
BM vs MM after KMST updates - by Cyanne - 2009-03-19, 01:26 AM
BM vs MM after KMST updates - by Kevvl - 2009-03-19, 01:40 AM
BM vs MM after KMST updates - by JoeTang - 2009-03-19, 01:54 AM
BM vs MM after KMST updates - by Cyanne - 2009-03-19, 02:05 AM
BM vs MM after KMST updates - by Chameleonic - 2009-03-19, 02:12 AM
BM vs MM after KMST updates - by Kevvl - 2009-03-19, 02:18 AM
BM vs MM after KMST updates - by KaidaTan - 2009-03-19, 02:28 AM
BM vs MM after KMST updates - by Russt - 2009-03-19, 02:30 AM
BM vs MM after KMST updates - by Chameleonic - 2009-03-19, 02:36 AM
BM vs MM after KMST updates - by Cyanne - 2009-03-19, 02:38 AM
BM vs MM after KMST updates - by Stereo - 2009-03-19, 03:08 AM
BM vs MM after KMST updates - by Aids - 2009-03-19, 04:19 AM
BM vs MM after KMST updates - by Russt - 2009-03-19, 04:29 AM
BM vs MM after KMST updates - by Sn1perJohnE - 2009-03-19, 04:47 AM
BM vs MM after KMST updates - by FelixTM - 2009-03-19, 04:51 AM
BM vs MM after KMST updates - by Aids - 2009-03-19, 06:54 AM
BM vs MM after KMST updates - by DrRusty - 2009-03-19, 06:57 AM
BM vs MM after KMST updates - by Dusk - 2009-03-19, 09:25 AM
BM vs MM after KMST updates - by Stereo - 2009-03-19, 09:35 AM
BM vs MM after KMST updates - by DrRusty - 2009-03-19, 10:27 AM
BM vs MM after KMST updates - by IllegallySane - 2009-03-19, 10:52 AM
BM vs MM after KMST updates - by DrRusty - 2009-03-19, 10:53 AM
BM vs MM after KMST updates - by Amnesia - 2009-03-19, 11:10 AM
BM vs MM after KMST updates - by summer - 2009-03-19, 11:12 AM
BM vs MM after KMST updates - by ablu2 - 2009-03-19, 11:29 AM
BM vs MM after KMST updates - by Findings - 2009-03-19, 11:58 AM
BM vs MM after KMST updates - by Dusk - 2009-03-19, 12:49 PM
BM vs MM after KMST updates - by Chameleonic - 2009-03-19, 12:51 PM
BM vs MM after KMST updates - by Stereo - 2009-03-19, 12:56 PM
BM vs MM after KMST updates - by Sn1perJohnE - 2009-03-19, 12:57 PM
BM vs MM after KMST updates - by Stereo - 2009-03-19, 01:16 PM
BM vs MM after KMST updates - by Derimed - 2009-03-19, 01:36 PM
BM vs MM after KMST updates - by DrRusty - 2009-03-19, 02:28 PM
BM vs MM after KMST updates - by ArbalistMaster - 2009-03-19, 02:36 PM
BM vs MM after KMST updates - by Sn1perJohnE - 2009-03-19, 03:41 PM
BM vs MM after KMST updates - by Cyanne - 2009-03-19, 08:00 PM
BM vs MM after KMST updates - by ShadyPriest - 2009-03-19, 08:27 PM
BM vs MM after KMST updates - by Stereo - 2009-03-19, 08:41 PM
BM vs MM after KMST updates - by Kevvl - 2009-03-19, 09:35 PM
BM vs MM after KMST updates - by KaidaTan - 2009-03-19, 10:14 PM
BM vs MM after KMST updates - by Lifis - 2009-03-20, 11:55 PM
BM vs MM after KMST updates - by ArbalistMaster - 2009-03-21, 12:53 PM
BM vs MM after KMST updates - by Russt - 2009-03-21, 01:32 PM
BM vs MM after KMST updates - by Lifis - 2009-03-21, 02:50 PM
BM vs MM after KMST updates - by ArbalistMaster - 2009-03-21, 11:57 PM
BM vs MM after KMST updates - by Lifis - 2009-03-23, 08:42 PM

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