Using MW To Equip Items

Harrison, the two above you are reputable members of SouthPerry and to insult them so is ignorant on your part. There are better people on this forum for you to call ignorant, save those comments for them, lol.

I didn't mean ignorant by stupid. I meant ignorant as in misinformed.

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There are different definitions of ignorance, one connotating offense and one plainly means they just don't know what's happening. I'm sure he meant ignorance as "they don't have real experience" as opposed to "they're idiots and are lying to me for shiggles."

I dont think that they gave you inaccurate data or are ignorant on the situation but rather, something you're missing on your end. You tested this a grand total of ONCE (or so it would seem). If you went to aqua, swam upwards, and hit a monster and didnt dc, would you call everyone who insists that aqua dcs exist as "misinformed and ignorant"?

Likewise, when you do a scientific experiment, do you only do it once? If an albino owl hatched out of an owl egg in the one time that you tried it, will you say that all owl eggs produce albino owls and that everyone else is ignorant?

Try testing multiple times, till you give up because you cant see it any other way.

I didn't try it only with one skill. I tried it with a variety of skills and none of them DCed me.

I dont know if it's been fixed or not, but I remember that back in Tespia wave 2 I think, when I went pap, I dc'd cause I needed MW to use a metus and got dispelled by pap.

I know this glitch existed during tespia. Otherwise, I wouldn't have asked. I'm asking whether the glitch still exists today. It might seem not as I know a FP mage who uses a 165 staff with MW at pap. However, I'm still seeing reports from people that the DCing still occurs.

I got dispelled multiple times, but it was only on the 3rd or 4th dispel that it happened.

That's very interesting. I never knew that it happened only after multiple times. Does anyone, perhaps, know the cause of what allows one to stay in game after being dispeled the first or second time?

Perhaps you arent timing it right, or it requires an actual dispel for it to happen. Try going to sharks and continously test it out till something happens.

Good idea, except last night I honestly didn't feel like walking to aqua. >_>

Also, going to sharks and intentionally making them dispel you is just asking for death...

Till you do something like that, calling them ignorant based on one "failed" attempt is ignorant in itself.

Again, I did not only have one test, I had multiple tests.

You cast a Meteor. Then you took off your wand. There's no reason to disconnect you because you're not trying to attack without a weapon and succeeding. You've already attacked.

Hmm... let's put the several scenarios side by side:
Situation1
1) I cast meteor
2) I self dispel
3) My meteor animation finishes
4) My staff disappeared
5) I did not DC.
Situation2
1) Something dispels me
2) My staff disappears
3) I cannot cast Meteo
Situation3
1) I cast meteor
2) Something dispels me
3) My meteor animation finishes
4) My staff disappears
5) I don't know whether or not I'd DC

I don't see any possible way you can DC in Situations 1 and 2. I tested 1. 2 would mean you can't attack. It'll just give the pink message saying "you cannot attack with the weapon with the current stats".

Thus 3 is the only way I can DC. However, based on what you wrote, "There's no reason to disconnect you because you're not trying to attack without a weapon and succeeding. You've already attacked." I wouldn't DC in situation 3 either.

By logic, the fourth situation is if I attack exactly at the same time it's dispelling, which is what you mentioned next:

One of the particular things about it is you have to be about to execute an attack. It's much more prone to occur if you're spamming, like at a boss and you're suddenly dispelled in the middle of a fast attack. Most noteably, Bow Masters suffered frequently from this occurence with Hurricane. The best means of testing this would be to find a Bow Master who requires MW to wear his bow. Have him Hurricane some Sharks as they dispel him. If he doesn't d/c, go wild.

The problem is though, that I don't know any bowmen that use MW to equip their bows. If the bowman uses hurricane, why couldn't he try DCing himself. Hurricane is fast enough that even self DC would work?

Also, let's say I have 11 mw and a friend had 20 mw and uses 20 mw to equip his equip. Would my 11 mw DC him or would the DC only happen with a dispel?

And in order for this to DC, people would have to be really precise to a millisecond? Or is there a generalization of the timer to count all events in x time the same time?

I don't recall having ever heard that this bug was ever fixed though.

I don't either. That's why I'm asking. I see people with 163 staves and everyone I know who uses one uses MW to equip it because otherwise they'd lose out on quite a bit of INT.

By logic, why would they risk DCing just for a staff? They could just cap their LUK at 105 and deal with the weaker counterpart without the chance of DCing, or get a 130 lukless wand. Because of this, my logic is telling me that it's been fixed, but I can't be certain, which is why I still need to ask.

Dispelling MW by yourself while you're attacking doesn't disconnect you, it merely makes you in "breathing" mode while you're weaponless. I dub it the breath h4x xD

 Can you do this?

That doesn't help, because it's not a hack.

Being dispelled by a monster while you're attacking causes you to d/c. (tested with Stonetooth)

My guess as to what's happening here is that the client detects that something went out of synch, so you automatically disconnect.

May I ask how long ago you tested it? Because this next post contradicts yours:

My friend tested with his MoN + Mw combo (instead of HTP) to equip Dragon Shiner Bow at Pap, he said it works fine.