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CKPQ Bossing Strategy
haha01haha01 Wrote:wouldnt it be best to kill margana first and than just kill hsalf, red nirg and rellik together? it will make it way easier for AoE atters, as well as DrKs and heroes.
Yea, that's from my strategy. Although once Hsalf and Margana were both down, we separated Rellik and Red Nirg cuz Rellik's effing annoying.
Kevin Wrote:I think the group I go with in Bello has our bossing strategy down, and I think it works pretty well. The strategy is based on the idea that your ranged attackers will want to fight one boss at a time, while your melee attackers want to attack multiple bosses at once.
  • Everyone kills the pre-boss monsters, then return to the center of the room. Ranged stay on top platform.
  • When the grandmasters are summoned, ranged characters pin Margana. Melee classes corner the remaining 3 grandmasters.
  • Once Margana dies, 1 warrior grabs Hsalf and rushes him to the other side. Ranged take care of him.
  • After Hsalf dies, melee party separate Nirg and Rellik.
  • With the aid of some melee characters, ranged kill Nirg and its reincarnations.
  • After Nirg dies, everyone gang up on Rellik to complete the fight.
With this strategy, the ranged party doesn't even need HB (Margana and Hsalf don't do a lot of damage and just stay out of Nirg's range). Important: Bishops should remember to dispel Nirg's attack up buff. Ranged characters with apple get the full use out of it (since Rellik, who is a pain for ranged characters, is put off until there's no choice). And of course, Nirg doesn't get to buff up any of his pals. (Unless the melee is strong and can take off more than 50% of Nirg before ranged finishes off Margana and Hsalf, but that hasn't been the case with our runs. Don't think it'll make any difference.)
I like your explanation, but that's similar to my strategy...

It seems that more than a few people prefer this strategy the most.
haha01haha01 Wrote:i did a pq yesterday (we had 18 people and failed, btw. we were too weak, inexped, we lacked pots and our priest killed himself as well as his whole party with heal) but i noticed that hugging the bosses is a nice solution as a warrior. you barely get any stuns\spells\ power knock backs or 1\1s.
It's nice for mages as well. Rellik is comparable to Manon and Griffey in that it's attacks have effects attached to them. Everyone who's nonranged should stand on the wall and push Rellik's body away from the wall. If the ranged stand on the opposite side, Rellik will be either pushed to the wall by the ranged's quick attacks, or will walktowards the melee.
Jormungandr Wrote:[COLOR="Teal"]We tried doing it this way and it seemed to be really helpful.
Basically same thing at beginning:

So first off Warriors rush the 3 bosses to the left while ranged takes out Margana on top.

At about 5-10% hp for Margana, warriors rush Hsalf over to the right, where the ranged party will kill after Margana is down.

Now once Hsalf is dead, here comes the fun part:

Instead of the usual ways, isolate the Red Nirg from Rellik, the warriros should rush Red Nirg to the right and pin him there.

Now the ranged all go after rellik. While his sea,stun, 1/1 poison is a pain, the ranged party can stand on the low left platform past the statues, since they are able to pin it in the corner there, and relllik's 1/1 poison does not reach the upper platforms. It passes right below the lowest platform on the left.

Once rellik is done, the warriors should be done with Red Nirg, if not, the ranged stay up top and all the people who can survive finish off Red Nirg and his spawns.


Red Nirg is still reserved for last since his buff hits 6k, which our ranged can not survive.
Taking out rellik in that corner earlier on prevented all our deaths involving him, and it seemed to go faster that way.

If the warrior party isn't as strong, I guess it would be easier if the Red Nirg was taken out first, but the range party is still in danger from his buff.
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The problem with this is that Rellik's range will still hit people on the top platforms. I tried it and got stunned multiple times.

Whenever there is a "group stun", Rellik will start moving towards the group, and then push the group back. The only chance of the group being freed is if Rellik does it's 1/1 poison and doesn't stun you, or if you split up your ranged so that only one ranged party is attacking at a time, and when one group is fighting, the other group waits for the group stun and replaces them.
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