Marksman Building?

Wow, you guys need to find better friends xD

By the way, I was talking about non-horntail bosses because you'll have maxed SE after you reach a high enough level to have enough hp and overcome the level difference cut anyways.

I did SE to 20 first, getting 1 FP at 120, 1 boost, 1 DB, 1 pierce (just for the effect) at 124 and 1 snipe at 126 or so, when I got the skill. now I'm adding Boost.
my reasoning has been to take into account the type of training I'm doing. while I was at newties, SE made it easier to get parties, and makes lower leveled archers/NLs pump out more damage, thus more exp; so I started raising that.

by the time I was 128, which is where I got 20 SE, I had enough hp to move to guardians. I don't see myself using pierce on them, at least with 2 second charge, since I can't tank the mace attack and they cant be frozen. So I started adding boost to make my AE damage better (plus I can't afford SE 30). The only time I use snipe here is when I'm moving from one side to the other, and it's already cooled down by then.

now I'm planning to get 26 Boost, then 21/30 pierce, and then max snipe. by keeping boost at 26, I can max snipe 1 level earlier, the 3 levels extra on pierce will depend on the training spots we have available and how much I like 21 pierce. also, I figure that getting pierce before snipe will make me get to the point of maxing both earlier. mobs are always better training than 1v1s.

I intend to keep DB at 1 for quite some time. if DB can't push a monster then that means there's at least 5 in my range, which is enough to be worthy of pierce IMO.

Thanks for the input =]

Question: Are crimson guardians effective at 120, assuming enough hp to take a hit from anything other than the mace attack? Compare it to typhons, newties (solo or party, but not with an ultimate-spammer), or anything else that might have a chance to compete in terms of experience rate.

It's kind of stupid, really. If you're not a NL, you stand to gain just about nothing from having SE, and if you are, you still get 2/3 the benefit for 1/3 the points. But then again, it's also stupid that 1 point of attack can cost millions, and I doubt that'll stop any time soon.

RE 30 Boost vs 30 SE in numbers
Since they multiply each other, it's probably actually more beneficial to have something in between the two scenarios presented above, assuming you don't mind being thrown out of parties by stupid people (i.e. everyone).
Ex. simplified example:
10*30 = 300
20*20 = 400

Yeah, I noticed that too. I want to do something like a graph on excel where I can compare different builds of the two skills being raised at different intervals, but I have no idea how to handle Excel with more than one variable D: I'll try to find out with google.