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Knight of Cygnus: Soul Master
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y0y0y0y0shi0 Wrote:@Electric, it's quite a bit. Nothing really exact but a lot for lower lvls, especially for CPQ type things. It will ultimately get you more points and allow you to kill faster. And yes, that's the build hes suggesting, though, you should really get max Soul Blade in the beginning instead of getting 21 then waiting.

You can't just assume that you should go the Mastery build because "that's the conventional wisdom for warriors" This isn't a warrior. It's a Soul Master. Soul Master =/= Warrior. Though they have similar skills, they aren't the same. It would be like assuming the build for a Paladin is the same as one for a Hero.

Soul Blade, no matter what, should come before Mastery. Soul Runner, can be either 2nd or 1st. You need that extra mobility during training, it's going to be a key aspect of it.

For CPQ, I'm thinking Slash Blast is still going to be good enough to last you until you get Mastery maxed and then start into Soul Blade. I'm not saying Soul Blade isn't an improvement, but is it going to level me a ton faster than Mastery and Slash Blast would through those levels? I'd just like to hear some specific examples of where it's better, and how much better it is. Something like, with slashblast you'd usually get x amount of CP, with Soul Blade first you'd get x amount of CP instead. Or with slashblast you'd be killing x monsters in x number of hits and with Soul Blade you'd be killing x monsters in x number of hits instead. Or with Soul Blade you can train at x places whereas with slash blast you can only train at x places. And if no one feels like doing it, then I'll just wait until Soul Master comes out and do both builds myself to find out the answer. XP

Conventional wisdom has more to do with what average people will do than what you or I would do individually. Most people, if they were suddenly able to make a Soul Master, would indeed max Mastery first. Some people might put points into Soul Runner first, or even into Soul Blade, but for most people, they'd still work on maxing mastery as soon as possible. It's called conventional wisdom because most people would consider it the wisest choice. It may prove not to be the wisest choice, but it takes time and evidence to show that. We've got plenty of time to disprove or prove my thoughts on it, but very little evidence. So far all I've gotten is your and Kirov's words, which while they're better than my inexperienced thoughts on Soul Masters, they're not quite enough for me to go with what your conventional wisdom states.

Soul Runner remains an unknown for me at the moment, mostly because I like the idea of better movement, but I'm still not sure how soon I really need it versus how soon I really want it. I may want it sooner than I need it, or need it sooner than I want it. I suppose alot of it will depend on whether I decide to go Soul Blade first as you and Kirov suggest.
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Knight of Cygnus: Soul Master - by HooKarez - 2009-02-15, 10:31 AM
Knight of Cygnus: Soul Master - by Link - 2009-02-15, 11:25 AM
Knight of Cygnus: Soul Master - by y0y0y0y0shi0 - 2009-02-15, 11:25 AM
Knight of Cygnus: Soul Master - by Sinnuendo - 2009-02-15, 11:32 AM
Knight of Cygnus: Soul Master - by HooKarez - 2009-02-15, 11:45 AM
Knight of Cygnus: Soul Master - by y0y0y0y0shi0 - 2009-02-15, 11:57 AM
Knight of Cygnus: Soul Master - by HooKarez - 2009-02-15, 12:03 PM
Knight of Cygnus: Soul Master - by TFindlay - 2009-02-15, 12:10 PM
Knight of Cygnus: Soul Master - by y0y0y0y0shi0 - 2009-02-15, 12:18 PM
Knight of Cygnus: Soul Master - by HooKarez - 2009-02-15, 12:31 PM
Knight of Cygnus: Soul Master - by ElectricSix - 2009-02-15, 02:32 PM
Knight of Cygnus: Soul Master - by Kirov - 2009-02-15, 02:35 PM
Knight of Cygnus: Soul Master - by KatanaKiwi - 2009-02-15, 02:55 PM
Knight of Cygnus: Soul Master - by modular - 2009-02-15, 03:14 PM
Knight of Cygnus: Soul Master - by ZYXWVUT - 2009-02-15, 03:18 PM
Knight of Cygnus: Soul Master - by HooKarez - 2009-02-15, 03:23 PM
Knight of Cygnus: Soul Master - by ElectricSix - 2009-02-15, 04:16 PM
Knight of Cygnus: Soul Master - by Birdie - 2009-02-15, 04:43 PM
Knight of Cygnus: Soul Master - by modular - 2009-02-15, 05:55 PM
Knight of Cygnus: Soul Master - by Russt - 2009-02-15, 06:54 PM
Knight of Cygnus: Soul Master - by modular - 2009-02-15, 07:15 PM
Knight of Cygnus: Soul Master - by Russt - 2009-02-15, 07:30 PM
Knight of Cygnus: Soul Master - by Kirov - 2009-02-15, 07:32 PM
Knight of Cygnus: Soul Master - by TFindlay - 2009-02-15, 07:44 PM
Knight of Cygnus: Soul Master - by modular - 2009-02-15, 07:45 PM
Knight of Cygnus: Soul Master - by ElectricSix - 2009-02-15, 08:59 PM
Knight of Cygnus: Soul Master - by Takebacker - 2009-02-15, 09:06 PM
Knight of Cygnus: Soul Master - by y0y0y0y0shi0 - 2009-02-15, 09:19 PM
Knight of Cygnus: Soul Master - by DarkestTempest - 2009-02-15, 09:40 PM
Knight of Cygnus: Soul Master - by Russt - 2009-02-15, 09:55 PM
Knight of Cygnus: Soul Master - by Link - 2009-02-15, 10:31 PM
Knight of Cygnus: Soul Master - by modular - 2009-02-15, 10:50 PM
Knight of Cygnus: Soul Master - by y0y0y0y0shi0 - 2009-02-15, 11:08 PM
Knight of Cygnus: Soul Master - by Beserker101 - 2009-02-15, 11:48 PM
Knight of Cygnus: Soul Master - by y0y0y0y0shi0 - 2009-02-15, 11:51 PM
Knight of Cygnus: Soul Master - by modular - 2009-02-16, 12:01 AM
Knight of Cygnus: Soul Master - by y0y0y0y0shi0 - 2009-02-16, 12:26 AM
Knight of Cygnus: Soul Master - by modular - 2009-02-16, 01:00 AM
Knight of Cygnus: Soul Master - by Link - 2009-02-16, 01:25 AM
Knight of Cygnus: Soul Master - by y0y0y0y0shi0 - 2009-02-16, 01:49 AM
Knight of Cygnus: Soul Master - by ElectricSix - 2009-02-16, 02:56 AM
Knight of Cygnus: Soul Master - by modular - 2009-02-16, 06:32 AM
Knight of Cygnus: Soul Master - by Cancambo - 2009-02-16, 06:55 AM
Knight of Cygnus: Soul Master - by Kirov - 2009-02-16, 11:09 AM
Knight of Cygnus: Soul Master - by modular - 2009-02-16, 02:54 PM
Knight of Cygnus: Soul Master - by Stereo - 2009-02-16, 03:56 PM
Knight of Cygnus: Soul Master - by ElectricSix - 2009-02-16, 07:59 PM
Knight of Cygnus: Soul Master - by fnatic - 2009-03-08, 02:48 AM
Knight of Cygnus: Soul Master - by Barragan902 - 2009-07-17, 03:00 PM
Knight of Cygnus: Soul Master - by Nikkey - 2009-07-17, 03:37 PM
Knight of Cygnus: Soul Master - by StormMike - 2009-07-18, 01:51 PM
Knight of Cygnus: Soul Master - by Barragan902 - 2009-07-19, 08:46 PM
Knight of Cygnus: Soul Master - by BoxTag - 2009-07-19, 09:04 PM
Knight of Cygnus: Soul Master - by Bountyan - 2009-07-20, 01:56 PM
Knight of Cygnus: Soul Master - by FelixTM - 2009-08-08, 11:49 PM
Knight of Cygnus: Soul Master - by NibCake - 2009-08-15, 09:18 PM
Knight of Cygnus: Soul Master - by Tykian - 2009-08-15, 10:52 PM
Knight of Cygnus: Soul Master - by TFindlay - 2009-08-16, 11:03 AM
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