2009-02-07, 05:09 PM
The problem with all this "The universe is so big, something MUST have created it!" is that you're thinking like a human. You're assuming that an effect has to have a cause, and that's not the case. It's ridiculous to talk about "what was there before the universe?" because there was no *before*. Time started when the universe started. Without the existence of time, there can be no "before".
I think the main reason most of you are hating on atheists is that a large portion of them act like dicks and talk down to religious people. I would classify myself as an "Atheist Agnostic", I don't think there is a god but you know, it doesn't matter AT ALL whether there is or not. It's a waste of time to debate it because even if there is, it's unprovable and thus irrelevant.
I try not to talk down like other atheists, but there are many times when people try to build their arguments on their religious beliefs. You can't do that. An argument needs to be built on logic, and by basing it on "faith" you've immediately tossed logic, and thus the ability to argue, out the window. Unfortunately, the vast majority of the reasons used to argue against magnificent technological breakthroughs (Like stem cell research) are purely religious, and it's infuriating to have the progress of science held up by such nonsense. You can be religious, that's fine, but don't push your unprovable beliefs on the world.
I think the main reason most of you are hating on atheists is that a large portion of them act like dicks and talk down to religious people. I would classify myself as an "Atheist Agnostic", I don't think there is a god but you know, it doesn't matter AT ALL whether there is or not. It's a waste of time to debate it because even if there is, it's unprovable and thus irrelevant.
I try not to talk down like other atheists, but there are many times when people try to build their arguments on their religious beliefs. You can't do that. An argument needs to be built on logic, and by basing it on "faith" you've immediately tossed logic, and thus the ability to argue, out the window. Unfortunately, the vast majority of the reasons used to argue against magnificent technological breakthroughs (Like stem cell research) are purely religious, and it's infuriating to have the progress of science held up by such nonsense. You can be religious, that's fine, but don't push your unprovable beliefs on the world.