2009-02-04, 04:45 PM
School discipline... bring it back! Seriously, younger generations are becoming more insolent, rude and lazy. I'm not old enough to have experienced the cane (my dad used to tell me about his school days though) but it would make a difference. In fact... parents should just be allowed to discipline their children appropriately. Start with the source! I was friends with a few classmates who were 'troublemakers' and their parents basically let them do whatever they wanted, and they were always a bit lazy. They seemed shocked when I said I used to get punished for bad behaviour. :f6:
I wouldn't have a problem with teachers hitting students for bad behaviour... in extreme circumstances. If it acts as a deterrent, go for it. I've seen teachers have to put up with student violence (my Year 6 teacher was fierce, she dragged a boy out of the classroom for pushing over a table) and there has to be something they can do. Verbal warnings seem to go in one ear and out the other, and if the parents won't do their job in raising their children to behave and act like good responsible people then let the teachers do it. If you're intentionally rebellious then you need a good smack, if you're a slow learner and have difficulties then that's understandable. It should also be able to teach a lesson for life too. It might seem 'okay' to start a few fights, get in trouble, and slack your way through school scraping pass grades, but in the real world you either pass or fail. Fail at work and it's bai bai job. [Speaking of my personal experiences, I'm the eldest in my family and I would get smacked if I did something quite bad, and I've turned out very well, I'm respectful and had consistently high grades throughout school. In comparison, my sisters didn't get much punishment as my dad softened up and then my parents split, and they're quite rude, and one sister got into the wrong crowd. :/ I'm just saying, it does work in some cases. If you don't like the idea of getting hit, bawww moar. It's character building and teaches you to behave. The thought of not getting hit is enough to put you in the right direction.]
As for detentions, it depends on how the time is used. My school used to call it "Homework Club" (because it wasn't as bad as "detention") and you'd get sent there to get help with homework after school, and the more you forgot/didn't do your homework, the longer the interval (max of 2 hours). I got sent there twice in my whole school years, once for forgetting to e-mail my art assignment to my school e-mail and another for forgetting my gym kit, and I saw it as a stain on my record (not that it was actually recorded). ;_; My sister however ended up there several times a week due to pure laziness and several of her friends didn't really see it as a deterrent. I'd say 30 minutes would be a waste of time unless the time was used productively. Chances are those who end up in detention won't do their homework, will sleep, or do nothing.
For the tl;dr crowd;
1. I think it's okay in 'extreme circumstances', such as constant disruptions, violence towards other students and property damaging.
2. It's a waste of time if the students aren't given something to do that they will LEARN from.
I may also be biased because I can't stand children nowadays, I'd like to punish them all.
I wouldn't have a problem with teachers hitting students for bad behaviour... in extreme circumstances. If it acts as a deterrent, go for it. I've seen teachers have to put up with student violence (my Year 6 teacher was fierce, she dragged a boy out of the classroom for pushing over a table) and there has to be something they can do. Verbal warnings seem to go in one ear and out the other, and if the parents won't do their job in raising their children to behave and act like good responsible people then let the teachers do it. If you're intentionally rebellious then you need a good smack, if you're a slow learner and have difficulties then that's understandable. It should also be able to teach a lesson for life too. It might seem 'okay' to start a few fights, get in trouble, and slack your way through school scraping pass grades, but in the real world you either pass or fail. Fail at work and it's bai bai job. [Speaking of my personal experiences, I'm the eldest in my family and I would get smacked if I did something quite bad, and I've turned out very well, I'm respectful and had consistently high grades throughout school. In comparison, my sisters didn't get much punishment as my dad softened up and then my parents split, and they're quite rude, and one sister got into the wrong crowd. :/ I'm just saying, it does work in some cases. If you don't like the idea of getting hit, bawww moar. It's character building and teaches you to behave. The thought of not getting hit is enough to put you in the right direction.]
As for detentions, it depends on how the time is used. My school used to call it "Homework Club" (because it wasn't as bad as "detention") and you'd get sent there to get help with homework after school, and the more you forgot/didn't do your homework, the longer the interval (max of 2 hours). I got sent there twice in my whole school years, once for forgetting to e-mail my art assignment to my school e-mail and another for forgetting my gym kit, and I saw it as a stain on my record (not that it was actually recorded). ;_; My sister however ended up there several times a week due to pure laziness and several of her friends didn't really see it as a deterrent. I'd say 30 minutes would be a waste of time unless the time was used productively. Chances are those who end up in detention won't do their homework, will sleep, or do nothing.
For the tl;dr crowd;
1. I think it's okay in 'extreme circumstances', such as constant disruptions, violence towards other students and property damaging.
2. It's a waste of time if the students aren't given something to do that they will LEARN from.
I may also be biased because I can't stand children nowadays, I'd like to punish them all.