*facepalm* I know how the game actually works. I've been playing long enough to do that. Don't tell me my thoughts and ideas are invalid because that's not how it actually works. I know that leeching is faster than training, and that's why people do it. I think it's more contructive to talk about what should be done than how things already are.
Also, since I have to bottom 90% of the time, since I can't party at 98 and I train during hours when a lot of people are on, I'm moving back and forth, not attacking one Newtie >_>
As for map availability, Newties is one of the best maps to leech on. Less people leeching = less people crowding that one map. It doesn't matter, though, since we should get the mini-dungeon eventually.
DrRusty Wrote:There's also squids, gobies, vikings, sharks, and so on. You're not forced to train at newties. If all the newties maps are full, then just train somewhere else. That's how you build control with your char in any situation. If you sit and attack a single newtie all day long, you'll end up being no better at control as any leecher.From level 90 onwards, there isn't a single map in the game that compares to Newties in terms of exp for Outlaws. CWK (and maybe Himes, but that's with a completely different build) caverns are the closest you can get, and that's like a 20-30% slower training speed. I don't train at Newties because I like it. I'd be at Gobies if Outlaws had any good mob skills.
Also, since I have to bottom 90% of the time, since I can't party at 98 and I train during hours when a lot of people are on, I'm moving back and forth, not attacking one Newtie >_>
nannerz Wrote:That might be how you think it *should* work (keyword: should) but, sorry, that is not how this system actually works. If I want to level fast, and I have the resources available, why wouldn't I aim for the fastest levelling method currently in existence? I don't see why people expect leechers to just stop leeching because they hold an idealistic view of how people should be playing this game. If you don't care to level like that, don't do it, and don't bash people who do. They had to obtain the mesos to pay somehow.Uh. What I said was, leeching shouldn't be faster than training. If it wasn't then there wouldn't be so many leechers. I don't bash leechers for leeching, because I know they're simply using their available resources. Instead of scolding them for doing it, I'd rather see the system changed so they can't do it nearly as effectively. And clearly there are a lot of people that agree with me on this point, because they're changing the way exp is split accordingly.
As for map availability...just because an AM/bishop wants to leech doesn't mean a map magically opens up for them. All of us have to look for maps.
As for map availability, Newties is one of the best maps to leech on. Less people leeching = less people crowding that one map. It doesn't matter, though, since we should get the mini-dungeon eventually.

