Flonne Wrote:Tim Pool is a liberal journalist, he is not with infowars or breitbart, he went to Sweden in order to prove that Trump and the far right media outlets are all blowing things way out of proportion and was legitimately surprised when he found that what they are saying is 100% true. Why should there be a distinction between terrorists and refugees? If the refugees are terrorizing the locals and taking over portions of the country for themselves, that makes them terrorists, does it not?
And yes, the entire point of the ban is to target Muslims, because they are producing the terrorists, what of it? I'm not going to argue that it's not a Muslim ban, of course it is. The only people arguing otherwise still don't realize that there are no merits left in being politically correct in today's society, you should say what you mean and mean what you say and not try to obfuscate the truth, because generally the truth is also exactly what is needed as opposed to the halftruths that political correctness brings.
I know he's a liberal journalist and not with IW or BB. I saw that he went to Sweden on the bet, but couldn't find any actual coverage of the results outside of IF or BB.
I'm not making a distinction between terrorists and refugees, I'm making a distinction between ordinary crime and terrorism. I think Pool's comparison of refugee camps to inner cities is probably apt. Take any disenfranchised population with no wealth and very little opportunity and you're going to get crime. Rampant crime will create fear (see Chicago) but that doesn't make it terrorism.
If you accept that the EO is an explicit Muslim ban, then it will very likely be ruled unconstitutional. The only people arguing it isn't a Muslim ban are Trump and his fellow Republicans because they know that it weakens their legal argument. Your own anti-PC president is saying it's not a Muslim ban. Why did he back off the ban on Iraq? Because he bowed to pressure from Congressional Republicans who didn't want people thinking the propped up Iraqi government is incompetent. He's just an PC and politically expedient as any other politician.
DeVos' education strategy is indeed exactly like Trump's strategy on EPA, ACA, and DoE. Burn it all down and let god sort it out. Yes, let's shut down the DoE which does unimportant thinks like regulate nuclear power, fund research on nuclear weapons detection, and monitor the energy grid. That won't make us vulnerable to terrorist attacks. That's just as unimportant as educating children, providing medical care, and stopping global warming. I'm not saying they were doing a great job beforehand, but at least they tried. Trump's strategy is all destruction and no construction.
[MENTION=5658]xparasite9[/MENTION]; Making 6 EO has the exact same impact and is subject the exact same arguments. I'll also point out that MD isn't part of the "Nutty Ninth". You're also using the burden of proof in the wrong direction. Trump needs to actually prove that:
1) These countries pose an explicit threat beyond other countries which have kept their immigration standards
2) Stopping immigration solves that threat
3) These countries aren't being unfairly targeted on the basis of religion
Halting all immigration would be an economic nightmare and turn every university, hospital, and tech company against him. It would probably get around the religious angle though so +1