2017-03-09, 01:54 PM
(This post was last modified: 2017-03-09, 03:40 PM by SaptaZapta.)
First of all, I'd like to thank Rexaar and jeffim for all their hard work collecting data with two characters in various situations.
Second, I must apologize for taking so long to write this summing-up post.
So, what have we learned?
Unfortunately, we do not have enough data points in any one configuration to draw quantitative conclusions about specific drop buffs, as we did in previous tests. It appears (from jeffim's data) that Lucky Winter and 2x coupons either do not truly double drop rate, or are not fully multiplicative with drop rate on equipment or inner ability for whatever reason. But the data points are too few to be conclusive.
Other than that, we do not see any data that contradicts what we already know.
However, because of the very high drop rate difference between party members in both Rexaar's and jeffim's tests, we do have enough information to draw conclusions regarding drop rate in parties. At least parties of two people.
For normal mobbing:
Drop rate of all party members in the same map is set to the drop rate of the character that created the party, as long as they are in the party and in the map. Changing party leader, or having the creator leave (for example to go to wolf/bounty portal) and rejoin, doesn't change the party's drop rate.
If the party creator is not in the party or not in the map, their drop rate no longer applies. Since we only checked 2-person parties, we do not know whether each character's own drop rate applies to their kills, or the party leader's (if not the creator), or some kind of average between present members.
For bossing:
Some bosses follow a different drop rule: killer drop rate is applied to shared loot regardless of who created the party.
Tested bosses where killer drop rate applies: Hilla and Zakum.
Tested bosses where party creator drop rate applies: Ranmaru, Krexel, Kacchuu Musha
It is possible that the difference is KMS vs. non-KMS bosses, but this requires more testing.
Things that still need testing:
1. Party creator changing drop rate after party creation - does new rate apply to just the creator, everyone, or no-one?
2. Parties of 3 or more people - what happens when the party creator is not present?
3. More bossing:
- What happens with the drops of "killer drop rate" bosses when more than one character damages the boss?
- Which bosses follow which rule (and why?)
- Do instanced drops always go by the drop rate of the person they're meant for?
Thanks, again, to all who participated.
Second, I must apologize for taking so long to write this summing-up post.
So, what have we learned?
Unfortunately, we do not have enough data points in any one configuration to draw quantitative conclusions about specific drop buffs, as we did in previous tests. It appears (from jeffim's data) that Lucky Winter and 2x coupons either do not truly double drop rate, or are not fully multiplicative with drop rate on equipment or inner ability for whatever reason. But the data points are too few to be conclusive.
Other than that, we do not see any data that contradicts what we already know.
However, because of the very high drop rate difference between party members in both Rexaar's and jeffim's tests, we do have enough information to draw conclusions regarding drop rate in parties. At least parties of two people.
For normal mobbing:
Drop rate of all party members in the same map is set to the drop rate of the character that created the party, as long as they are in the party and in the map. Changing party leader, or having the creator leave (for example to go to wolf/bounty portal) and rejoin, doesn't change the party's drop rate.
If the party creator is not in the party or not in the map, their drop rate no longer applies. Since we only checked 2-person parties, we do not know whether each character's own drop rate applies to their kills, or the party leader's (if not the creator), or some kind of average between present members.
For bossing:
Some bosses follow a different drop rule: killer drop rate is applied to shared loot regardless of who created the party.
Tested bosses where killer drop rate applies: Hilla and Zakum.
Tested bosses where party creator drop rate applies: Ranmaru, Krexel, Kacchuu Musha
It is possible that the difference is KMS vs. non-KMS bosses, but this requires more testing.
Things that still need testing:
1. Party creator changing drop rate after party creation - does new rate apply to just the creator, everyone, or no-one?
2. Parties of 3 or more people - what happens when the party creator is not present?
3. More bossing:
- What happens with the drops of "killer drop rate" bosses when more than one character damages the boss?
- Which bosses follow which rule (and why?)
- Do instanced drops always go by the drop rate of the person they're meant for?
Thanks, again, to all who participated.