Terrorist attack kills 50 in Orlando, Florida

It's amazing how much discussing politics can even pineapple up a place like SP. Not that I'd have our bunch of misfits any other way...
Flonne; That last response adds a lot of context and helps to understand your perspective. Thanks for sharing, it probably wasn't easy. cronnoponno; You're overly defensive. Most of your posts defend against attacks that weren't aimed at your or attacks at all.

I think we've come to the obvious consensus that the government can't enforcibly ban all (or certain types) guns or muslims. So let's just ignore the philosophical question about if we should try and focus on things that could actually be accomplished.

honestly, this is one of, if not the most civil internet politics discussion i've seen.

i think banning all muslims is a terrible idea, not even going into the obvious racism and whatnot shenanigans, say you ban them... to where? where do you send the american-born muslims? if they didn't hate you before they certainly will not like you now.

radical islam is an issue, i do think regular islam is a part of the problem, in the same way the christians had the crusades and whatnot back in the day, now however it's the islam's turn to go "cleansing the filth" when the world they're attacking has pretty much gone over that before.