2016-06-16, 07:52 AM
(This post was last modified: 2016-06-16, 08:59 AM by SaptaZapta.)
Flonne Wrote:-It's a lot harder to hide your nationality than it is to hide a gun, you know. Determined terrorists will find their way in and be arrested on sight before they can even get to a crowded area if there were a Muslim ban, because at that point only the terrorists or persons of interest WOULD still be in the country, the rest would be gone. They can't just hide in a crowd of innocent Muslims when none are supposed to be left in the country.
Because nobody knows how to fake an ID or a passport.
They won't hide in a crowd of innocent Muslims, they'll hide in a crowd of innocent New Yorkers.
Omar Mateen was born in New York and presumably spoke the same English as any other New Yorker. If he managed to acquire papers saying his name was Andy Martin, would anyone have any reason to doubt it? He was a regular at the Pulse, apparently, and active on gay dating sites. If he just changed his name and didn't tell his co-workers his religion, nobody would know he wasn't an ordinary Godless American homo.
You suddenly trust that the FBI would run a proper background check on every single citizen and resident on American soil, and find their true identity?
As for foreigners, how do you tell their religion? The bombers in Paris spoke native French, it's really just a matter of fake papers and maybe a cross on a necklace to "prove" to the Immigration officers that they're ordinary Catholic Frenchmen. Other terrorists could be disguised as Indians of any of a dozen non-Islamic religions. Or, for that matter, Jewish Israelis. 20% of Israeli citizens are Arab. Mostly Muslim, some Christian, some Druze (who claim to not be Arab at all). Why, there are even Muslims in Canada. Are you going to close your borders to everyone? Are you going to run a long and expensive background check on every tourist?
Some of them might get caught. But don't imagine for a second that you could catch them all.

