2016-06-14, 02:49 PM
Flonne Wrote:While I disagree with the stricter gun laws part (because they ARE generally strict aside from a few loopholes, the problem in this country is that they aren't FOLLOWED, people including the government themselves just fucking ignore the laws, if we just followed the laws we actually have in place we would be in a MUCH better place), I agree with the rest. The people that want weapons will get weapons no matter what, but we shouldn't give them fucking express lane tickets to those weapons by not following our own laws.
And as to the video, no matter how much proof is shown, even bringing that up is a one way ticket to being called a racist or anti-muslim by most everyone. They are calling this a hate crime scenario. I agree, it was a hate crime, but they are glazing over the part where it is a hate crime by an entire RELIGION that CONDONES THE CRIME IN THEIR OWN SACRED TEXTS. They are just saying it was one guy who happened to hate gay people and has no affiliation with anything even though he pledged himself to ISIS on Sunday over twitter.
One of his targets listed was Disney World anyway, so in the end he really just wanted to kill as many people as possible regardless of who they were, as long as they were Americans. The daughter of one of the families my parents go boating with and have been friends with for a while was IN Disney World at the time of the shooting. We actually just went to her high school graduation a couple weekends ago. If we keep allowing this pomegranate to happen eventually it's going to have a direct impact like that.
biggest problem i see as an outsider, is that it's easier in the US to get a gun than a car (ignoring price)
back to the night club, i'd say the problem here wasn't really the gun, but the security, if he managed to get in with an automatic rifle (i actually haven't seen any source saying where the shooting began) then what the hell was security doing? forget an ISIS member, i wouldn't want anyone in a club where you can get alcohol to have any sort of knife or gun.