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Maplestory is not dying, it is already deceased
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Malthe Wrote:Ok i'm no longer gonna just ask if you're stupid, you seem to either intentionally be ignoring what i'm saying or you're just moving the goalpost for the sake of it.
First you say that 60 viewers of 5 streams is great because it's Taiwanese streamers on a western platform on off-hours, now you argue that i should look at the streams and see that the games are thriving?

Are you incapable of reading? i am not arguing about the livelihood of maplestory.
And no, 60 viewers, even 100 viewers and even pineappleing 200 viewers is not a respectable amount of viewers, i mean for a casual streamer that's probably fine. But those numbers are what casual streamers for active and thriving games on twitch get, when those are among your top streamers it is in no way a respectable number

And again, what does maplestory's decline have to do with anything i'm talking about? no i'm not ignoring it, because it was never relevant to what i was commenting on or what i've been talking about for my past few posts.

Let's recap

You used a stupidly small amount of viewers as a metric and argument for why maplestory was doing well.
Other people and myself tell you that said viewer count is stupidly low and doesn't support your case.
You then begin to move the goalpost by saying pomegranate like "but if you look at their streams a lot of people are on and FM is full"

I mean, how the pineapple am i not using logic? SEA streamers that speak chinese primarily and stream dota on twitch still get western viewership that doesn't understand them, korean dota players that stream and speak korean also get western viewership that doesn't understand them. Regardless of it not being the streaming service native to their own country or region. Why? Because dota is a big and thriving game where you most definitely can use twitch viewership to support your argument of it doing well.
Why? because it's always on top and no matter what it's doing well.

Once again, i'm not saying mapelstory is doing poorly since this is apparently hard for you to understand, i'm saying that YOUR METRIC AND THE VIEWS MAPLESTORY GETS ON TWITCH, REGARDLESS OF HOW YOU TRY TO TURN IT DOES NOT REFLECT MAPLESTORY IN A POSITIVE LIGHT AT ALL.

If maplestory was interesting to watch, then people would be watching it. Clearly twitch isn't interesting in the game.

And if you were a smart person you'd realize "oh this game probably isn't interesting to twitch's audience" and stop trying to use twitch as a metric that supports your case, because it doesn't.

I mean at this point i almost feel like i'm being baited, there's no way you're this dense right? Anyway i'm genuinely done with this pomegranate. Like talking to a brick wall.

You've just said it yourself for pineapples sake, No one cares about this game on twitch, this is why these numbers are decent, you're the dense one, I've just explained on how the pineapple these streamers are casual, and they come from a rather small community on the wrong site, Maplestory's decline IN THE WEST ON A WESTERN SITE has to do with it BECAUSE IT MEANS EVEN LESS PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED IN THE GAME.

These viewers are a good number relatively to the interest of the game and its downfall, do you know what pineappleing relativity means? Relatively to where people actually are interested in this content, Youku, because Westerners DON'T GIVE A pineapple, THE TAINWESE, CHINESE WOULD LOVE TO SEE THIS ON THEIR OWN SITES AND THE NUMBERS ARE FAR LARGER THERE AND ON THE TOP DO YOU NOT GET THIS CONCEPT.

WHO SAID ANYTHING ABOUT MAPLESTORY FALLING I AM EXPLAINING TO YOU HOW IT FUUCKING SHOWCASES THAT THE VIEW NUMBERS ARE GOOD CONSIDERING THE CIRCUMSTANCES.

Maplestory is FUUCKING huge on Afreecatv, it is also nearly on the pineappleing top there, but not on twitch, I EXPLAINED IT TO YOU ON RATHER WHY THAT pineappleING IS, SO WHEN YOU CONSIDER THE LACK OF INTEREST ON TWITCH TOGETHER WITH THE VIEWS AND HOW CONSISTENT THEY ARE IT IS GOOD FOR SHOWCASING THAT FOR EXAMPLE TWMS IS QUITE POPULAR BECAUSE DESPITE OF IT BEING ON THE WRONG SITE IT STILL DOES WELL CONSISTENTLY RELATIVELY COMPARED TO ITS POPULARITY.

Variables pineappleing exist.
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Maplestory is not dying, it is already deceased - by TheBlackMage - 2016-06-09, 08:39 PM

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