Maplestory is not dying, it is already deceased

No one asked how well the other MapleStory versions are doing. You cannot be so oblivious that you think this has ever been about Maple as a whole. First, this is, first and foremost, by user base, a GMS forum, we didn't have KMS extractions here because of our rich KMS playing user base, it's always been about prepping for the future in GMS. Second, Pikamemnon, who literally always makes these threads, doesn't play the other Maple versions, and he always talks about GMS. It's perfectly valid under this context to talk about GMS solely under "MapleStory", as well as being wildly inappropriate to assume that it refers to any other Maple version. Frankly, it's irrelevant to bring up the other versions of Maple, because, up until you brought it up, no one was talking about it.

And are you seriously surprised that GMS doesn't take to the content we're provided as well as KMS does? Not only that, you bring up the success of the other Asian markets as evidence that Maple is doing well? Do you really think the players in the other Asian countries are as wildly different from the Koreans as the Western market is such that the success of Maple there would be any indication of how successful Maple should be in the West? I'm pretty sure we already had this conversation last year. Let's take, for example, the forty something classes we have. I, personally, was pretty happy with all the classes up until, well I'm still pretty happy, but most people got tired of the "Let's release new classes every 6 months" thing pretty early on in GMS, tired of the new link skills that they had to get, tired of the character cards, level up events. On the other side, I believe I heard KMS was still pretty into getting new classes for quite a while after that. Getting more stuff from KMS isn't going to automatically fix the problems people have with GMS. And by the way, as far as it appears, the progression in KMS is only marginally better, unless you think having the option of training in dark, evil forest for about forty levels instead of just having robot junkyard wasteland is a huge improvement. Scrapyard and the Corrupted World Tree are just about the laziest excuses for content I have ever seen and are so obviously just designed so that people would stop complaining about having nothing aimed at 210 to 250.

By your logic, Microsoft's Xbox does really well in the US and it does pretty well in Europe too, so as a whole it does really well. It doesn't matter that it doesn't sell super well in Japan, I mean there must be something wrong with them right? Like, what's wrong with Japan, how dare they not like the Xbox as much as the people in its home country of America do? It's like the pineappleing second coming of Jesus Christ, how dare they not like it?

Here's something you must already realize, No one cares if GMS dies, No one in Nexon KR or anywhere is gonna be that sad about it, hint their management already says all, which is why I understand Khaini's frustration with this damn service, Just face it, making these threads is useless to begin with it won't change anything, this is as far as discussion about it can go, nearly all of you who posted in this thread have quit, and are bickering about useless non sense, [MENTION=13180]Gymleaders[/MENTION]; summarized this very well, you (not you specifically) do not know what's going on within the community.

Before I posted anything what pineappleing discussion was there, I bring up a points of contrast which no one starts talking about, ever until I post in these threads with my damn "Game's doing well shame on you guys too bad".

I am not surprised, where have I been ever shocked or surprise, I criticize them for that, many times in fact I had in the past, Yes I'll take their success as an example, do you know why? Because it's an objective view of what's going on, It has numbers it has methods that allow us to reflect on the game is doing, unlike bickering about certain aspects which won't change.

No where did I claim they are that different, what matters is the success of Maple as a whole, and it's doing well, don't you think that through this success something could leak onto GMS, even GMS isn't THAT bad, yeah it's sucky but boo hoo.

It is still content, busywork, that's what MMORPGs are to begin with, a distraction, not everyone gets tired with it, you haven't actually (in regards to link skills), do you think Korean's didn't? they did, it slowed down.

Beforehand we had no options, we had no way to train, just like in those days you were stuck in a water based ocean map for who knows how many levels or a dark background with clocks, yet I see people with nostalgia towards that and no care towards this despite being the same thing, Nexon is pumping out content and more areas, they confirmed it, what the hell do you expect them to do? Once again, it takes months to develop crap that could end within 15 minutes, Look at WoW.

They are adding more pomegranate, more ways to progress, what not, what's so hard to understand? People love toading their items, or making money off of it, it is not available in gms, why wouldn't pomegranate get stale when all of your high end items are staple items with 15 stars maximum go blame Nexon AM and KR.

Rushed? Those maps definitely weren't rushed and they allow you to grind in different areas with different ways without adding power creep to the game and making one map godly, they added WOLF DEN, the pineappleing hunters and random mini games to add variety, I am asking you what more does one need? Maybe MMORPGs aren't as good as they were?? THERE IS competition, Other genres exist, maplestory as an MMORPG ISN'T as bad as it used to be (objectively, once again look at all the additions) now.

No you're the one applying this logic, not me, because the bigger picture is, It is doing well, and I've already said it's ok to think of maple as stale, people are people, go read what I've said, why are you trying to reflect this onto my words? Yeah it could be interpreted as that, Nowhere did I complain about the (ex) GMS players for not liking it, I've explained logically reasons why I think there's a bleed, there are better things to do, demagoguery doesn't help.

Just like I've said, GMS just doesn't matter, how dare they not like the game damn while everyone else enjoys, no, no1cares in KR as long as it's #2 on KR popularity, these are horrible business practices which I DO NOT endorse but this is what's going on with Nexon KR, this is what they think.

Why is no one refuting any of my objective points such as content, socializing, market share in the world, freeing the game from Pay2Win aspects? Because those are true, those are things which are going on, right now, Nexon is developing even more pineappleing areas.

Is the game sick, not as much as it used to, that's the honest truth, and if KR would act kinder towards america it could be better, just like in the KR market, In this regard you're being stuck up, Korea has a huge different in itemization apporach and you're all just ignoring it when it could help, could be, because look no matter how you all said, it is a "different market" with different competition, Nexon is a korean company in US turf, something which failed for many other games, [MENTION=5798]Kobe[/MENTION]; Latale Boi.

You can't save the game regardless, is what you all are thinking honestly, I do not like that, there are things which could help manifest it's potential just like in the eastern market and it just doesn't happen and despite being suppressed it is still a good niche game that's fun, how about all of you try to play it once more or just face this belief and move onwards I think pikamemnon actually did despite his stupid threads.

Note: I am sorry if I sound angry but quite honestly I lost composure because many people here just sound selfish in regards to GMS, which is still making tons of people happy and you're just ignoring it, and I understand why that is, but it is not the most important market place :/ as clearly shown by KR
And honestly I am done as none of you listen to how it could be improved with the content that isn't being sent, thinking the game in its core is just catered towards another market completely despite having no proof of this because GMS (The Game DID change after adding pot scrolls and bb, and it doesn't contribute to this either) doesn't have 25 stars, flames, proper toad, scubes, different exp values, less op pomegranate like 8x exp rate, whatever clearly the two versions aren't so different thanks to these and more, just keep thinking that the eastern market is so different that it prevents the game to be better and if it doesn't cater to you, you are already not playing to begin with, are you not and not a single point I bring up will change this.

This discussion isn't fun to me anymore and I feel saturated see you in the next yearly thread regarding this though.

And before someone will BS on how I contradict myself when I keep talking about the how different/indifferent they are, I'll clarify, Gameplay wise all versions play the same, could this sustain the bleed? Surely but who knows-One thing is clear it can get boring and everyone agrees, Progression&Pacing&management are vastly different though.