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Terrorist attacks in Brussels
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VerrKol Wrote:To respond to your previous post, I didn't mean to imply that "Islam" is a victim. I was stating that Islamic people have suffered more at the hands of violent Islamic extremism than most Westerners. Why did Christians start the Crusades with their (intermittently) friendly trading partners in the Middle East despite adhering to religion which preaches "love thy neighbor" as one of it's founding tenants? Why didn't other Christians stop the Popes which blessed such actions? This line of reasoning isn't particularly productive, but who knows? We may see an equivalent to the Protestants arise from the moderate Islamic factions. I'd merely suggest that many Middle Eastern Muslims are not in a viable position to fight militant groups be they government sanctioned or otherwise without significant military aid in some situations. It's difficult to have a modern day revolution a la the American colonies when you're facing F-15s and tanks with small arms like in Syria.

Islam is the religion of savagery because they've been killing each other brutally and pointlessly way before any of us got there for any reason. The sentence that most accurately describes Islam is not "the religion of peace and tolerance" but "behead anyone who thinks Islam is violent." The Sunnis and Shiites worship God in a nearly identical way but are mortal enemies because of factors that to outsiders seem largely cosmetic. They are not "victims" of the violence they themselves are responsible for, because they are collectively making it happen, and have no interest in stopping it. Whenever somebody else goes on "their" space for any reason, they are out for blood -- but are intimately aware of their own rights on other people's space. Whether or not you as an individual have respect for Islam, these facts make it so a lot of people just don't, and they're justified in it. Before the world was pukefied with political correctness and liberal assertions that we "must not judge," people in the West exhibited unmitigated revulsion for Islam for precisely this reason.

Christianity did barbaric things in the distant past but has EVOLVED to more accurately reflect its founding ideals. In the 1700s, Scotland voting on a referendum to cecede would have been crushed by the Brits with force; but as Christianity is now, the Brits used political incentives to keep them in the fold. Islam, in the Middle Ages, was fairly evolved, but it has DEVOLVED to what it is now. The Jews and Christians, back then, were largely tolerated and allowed to live as they saw fit, with minor things such as a dhimmi tax to be allowed to do so. Today, Islam in most of its countries is not nearly as tolerant of either Jews or Christians, and I repeat that both of those religions has either been run out, or is in the process of being run out, by those same Muslims that whine to heaven that we must respect their rights in the West. Try judging a religion as what it is in 2016, rather than what it was 600 years ago.

Quote:Saying it doesn't make it so. You're completely ignoring Turkey, Jordan, Egypt (treatment has varied widely in recent years), and India (significant but not majority Muslims) which are all involved in the region and don't fit the Islamic picture you paint with such broad strokes. You'll also find that there's an incredibly wide gap between the Iranian government which is controlled by the clerics and the Iranian people. Ahmadinejad would actually be a fair parallel to Trump becoming president. Both were considered unrealistic candidates due to their extremist positions which represent reactionary views not held by a majority of the population and feature a strong vein of nationalism. Both based their electoral support on religious conservatives and low income workers.

Dude, I am not ignoring any of them. Turkey exterminated a large number the Christian-minority Armenians and is to this day denying it ever happened, just like Western neo-Nazis deny the Nazi Holocaust happened. They are a genocidal country that refuses to come to terms with its genocide, and I cannot and will not give any respect to them until they do; they are people in cahoots with those who worship Hitler; that's Turkey. Egypt HAS gone through many governments, and you're conveniently forgetting that the Muslim Brotherhood that originated in their borders spawned abominations like Hamas. India in our day loathes Islam because Muhammad Ali Jinnah betrayed Mahatma Gandhi to form Pakistan, which is India's mortal enemy to this day. THEY BETRAYED MAHATMA GANDHI. Ok? Mahatma Gandhi is liberalism at its purest, if there ever was a man truly like Jesus around our world it's him. And they stabbed him in the back. I remember reading statistics about what country has the least respect and support for Palestine, and India was the lowest, precisely because in its borders the Muslims were being Muslims.

Comparing Ahmanidejad to Trump is lunacy. Trump is an pimento, Ahmanidejad speaks about exterminating nations constantly.
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Terrorist attacks in Brussels - by Satellite - 2016-03-22, 10:28 AM
Terrorist attacks in Brussels - by SaptaZapta - 2016-03-22, 10:54 AM
Terrorist attacks in Brussels - by xparasite9 - 2016-03-22, 11:20 AM
Terrorist attacks in Brussels - by Satellite - 2016-03-22, 01:53 PM
Terrorist attacks in Brussels - by KhainiWest - 2016-03-22, 01:54 PM
Terrorist attacks in Brussels - by Derimed - 2016-03-22, 04:30 PM
Terrorist attacks in Brussels - by VerrKol - 2016-03-22, 07:07 PM
Terrorist attacks in Brussels - by xparasite9 - 2016-03-22, 07:12 PM
Terrorist attacks in Brussels - by Derimed - 2016-03-22, 09:38 PM
Terrorist attacks in Brussels - by xparasite9 - 2016-03-22, 09:44 PM
Terrorist attacks in Brussels - by Justin - 2016-03-23, 01:19 AM
Terrorist attacks in Brussels - by Derimed - 2016-03-23, 01:57 AM
Terrorist attacks in Brussels - by VerrKol - 2016-03-23, 05:17 AM
Terrorist attacks in Brussels - by xparasite9 - 2016-03-23, 10:57 AM
Terrorist attacks in Brussels - by VerrKol - 2016-03-23, 11:56 AM
Terrorist attacks in Brussels - by Satellite - 2016-03-23, 12:19 PM
Terrorist attacks in Brussels - by SaptaZapta - 2016-03-23, 12:33 PM
Terrorist attacks in Brussels - by xparasite9 - 2016-03-23, 01:45 PM
Terrorist attacks in Brussels - by SaptaZapta - 2016-03-23, 02:58 PM
Terrorist attacks in Brussels - by xparasite9 - 2016-03-23, 03:00 PM
Terrorist attacks in Brussels - by SaptaZapta - 2016-03-23, 03:03 PM
Terrorist attacks in Brussels - by xparasite9 - 2016-03-23, 03:10 PM
Terrorist attacks in Brussels - by SaptaZapta - 2016-03-23, 03:20 PM
Terrorist attacks in Brussels - by VerrKol - 2016-03-23, 03:38 PM
Terrorist attacks in Brussels - by xparasite9 - 2016-03-23, 03:46 PM
Terrorist attacks in Brussels - by SaptaZapta - 2016-03-23, 03:49 PM
Terrorist attacks in Brussels - by xparasite9 - 2016-03-23, 04:01 PM
Terrorist attacks in Brussels - by SaptaZapta - 2016-03-23, 04:12 PM
Terrorist attacks in Brussels - by xparasite9 - 2016-03-23, 04:24 PM
Terrorist attacks in Brussels - by SaptaZapta - 2016-03-23, 04:38 PM
Terrorist attacks in Brussels - by xparasite9 - 2016-03-23, 04:54 PM
Terrorist attacks in Brussels - by Derimed - 2016-03-23, 05:50 PM
Terrorist attacks in Brussels - by VerrKol - 2016-03-23, 08:29 PM
Terrorist attacks in Brussels - by Derimed - 2016-03-23, 09:57 PM
Terrorist attacks in Brussels - by xparasite9 - 2016-03-23, 10:11 PM
Terrorist attacks in Brussels - by VerrKol - 2016-03-24, 02:29 AM

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