2016-03-05, 03:00 PM
Silvarien Wrote:Not a face, a profession. And it IS ideas, because you're trying to paint a very experienced politician as somehow above politics, and I countered by saying that's what politicians do all the freaking time. Sanders' argument is used constantly by politicians in all tiers of competition. My Senator recently sent me an attack ad where he attacks his opponent as "politician." What is HE HIMSELF exactly, then? And how DO you regard as a "face" and not an "idea" me pointing out that your white knight makes as much per year as the Wall Street sharks he claims to hate, and has gotten through re-elections for 26 years when he's supposedly a choir boy? The "idea" here is the nature of the political profession. That is not perception, it's knowledge of the profession.
khainiwest Wrote: It isn't because he isn't apart of the system, but rather his opinions/issues GREATLY differ and his record shows that.
khainiwest Wrote:but rather his opinions/issues GREATLY differ and his record shows that.
khainiwest Wrote:and his record shows that.
khainiwest Wrote:his record
None of what you said has not been repeated in this thread, your entire political bias is so f`ucking thick that I feel bad you wasted your money on whatever online college you paid for. All you want to do is pontificate, well there's /pol/ for that, and they all share your irrational need to froth at the mouth over this. Bernie has made his stances clear, they appeal to the millennials not because he targets them, which you seem to believe. If this were the case then, much like Hilary's record would show, we would see DRASTIC flips, Sanders is consistent.
Silvarien Wrote:The suit, like the public face, is part of a politician's image. They also have to look nice, have a firm handshake, smile just right, etc. Being a politician in many ways is like being a Hollywood star. Image. THAT is what they're wearing, and the "not-a-career-politician" is as much a part of it as a suit. I based my argument on his salary, yeah, but also his 26 years in Congress and Senate. You kinda forgot that whole later part. I went to school in Washington, with a ton of future politicians, and I spent two years walking down the street past people like Madeline Albright and Joe Lieberman. You're assuming of me that I argue "perception" when I am actually arguing the "political profession" which I've seen in nearly countless exemplars in my life.
I live like, 40 minutes from DC, I audit and screw over poliitcians who try to lie on their taxes all the time. But my dad is also technically in that field, although more of a rep for DoD at the WRC, really same concepts, same problems. So with your general opinion over being with frap boys you are attacking my family indirectly, do you realize how ignorant that makes you look?
And my father MAKES MORE than Sanders, so wanna try to judge his character too based on your, frankly juvenile thought process?
Silvarien Wrote:I know what they look like, and I know what they actually are. They initially seem like very good people, but as you get to know them more and more, you realize they're very manipulative and will throw you away the moment that your usefulness to them has expired -- THAT is politicians. I see them on CNN, and I've seen what they say what they're not on CNN. Some of my classmates get mentioned in the New York Times, at this point. Politics is a very grim, very dreary profession that focuses on the pursuit of power and wealth at literally any cost while pretending they stand for squeaky-clean stuff that has nothing to do with it.
You can verify a consistent pattern by looking at their voting record, it's not that hard. I'm not judging any politician on their f`ucking personality, I judge them by what they use their voice for, PERIOD. So all this crap is worthless to me, especially your invaluable incite since I'm kind of like, in the capital of the US regarding this, and see things YOU DONT EVEN SEE. I can't even TELL YOU the sh`it ive seen because I could be sued tomorrow. Trust me your experience with this kind of pomegranate is LEAGUES beneath me, I've eaten lunch at restaurants these people go to and talk about cocaine dealers, I've stood in the same lines for baked goods in the morning with these people. Yet my perception is entirely different because I can separate the mans, literally wiping his ass with money then putting it in a tip jar, to him voting for pro gay marriage rights. It's irrelevant if they are in or out of office when they are sitting their voting for my personal opinion of where we should be going. So he could be Satan for all I care, if he makes it so I don't have to take some retarded class where I spend $300 to learn how to click hot links on the IRS website, Hail Satan.
Silvarien Wrote:So, what AM I supposed to assume about a guy that's been in Congress and Senate for 26 years? Historically it's been difficult to elect a Senator to the White House because Senators HAVE to compromise in the Senate to get things done, and their resultant record makes them look like hypocrites, with tons of stuff to be used against them in elections. There have been sixteen senators who got elected to Presidency. It's usually much easier to be something like a Governor, because there's not quite as much seemingly-illogical compromise involved.
If you actually did do your research you'll see most of Sanders biggest blots are on Gun control, which makes fu`cking since considering the state he reps. Yeah it does call for compromise, which is why there are videos on discussion slike these, TO PROVIDE CONTEXT TO THE CONVERSATION. You literally just see "26 years, bad apple", it's completely irrational, I could LIST things wrong with the other candidates and why they don't fit MY opinion on where the country can go. And they wouldn't be "RUBIO SWEATS TOO MUCH", or "DONALD TRUMP APPARENTLY HAS A MAGNIFICENT D`ICK BUT THAT OOMPA LOOMPA THING IS GROSS".
Silvarien Wrote:There is a difference between what Bernie Sanders is and what he wants you to think him to be. For all you know, he's cheating on his wife with three different women at the same time and has 120 million dollars secretly hidden in Swiss bank accounts. You don't WANT to think this of him, but in the reality of Washington it happens all the time, from Strom Thurmond post-humously having been discovered to have an illegitimate black daughter who he was paying money to all his life to keep her mouth shut, to Clinton saying "I didn't have sex with that woman," to Nixon being nuked by Watergate and Petraeus, one of the most respected politicians in Washington, having been discovered fairly recently to have been carrying on an affair. If everything about every Congressman and Senator suddenly became public, they'd all be replaced at the same time. If you want to think Sanders is different, well, many people don't think that.
I could say that about every candidate in any country, that is just an asinine basis to even start off on. Sanders wants to do these two things, he also wants to rewrite obama care (I'm more with HIlary that we should build off of it), his voting REFLECTS that opinion. So while he's snorting crack off a hookers back, at least I can see he's voting for a more affordable college, that he wants to break up business that just have re-defined monopolies. So what matters more to me, his cocaine addiction, or the fact he supports the future of our citizens education so we aren't a bunch of factory workers.

